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Posted by: Bobby.3721

Bobby.3721

There the only class I have one hell of a time fighting. I know that they are meant to land huge crits and whatnot, but I’m tired of being shut down by some random thief I happen across in WvW. Only thing I can think of is retaliation.

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Just start swinging when you see him approaching. Thieves have crap for armor and deal no damage so there isn’t really anything he can actually do to you except be annoying. If it’s one of those thieves that tries to be funny by chasing you around and spamming pistol shots then stealthing and running away, hit him with JI/Leap of Faith/Flashing Blade then use Binding Blade. Even if he stealths it’ll still track him and you can just pull him back to finish him off.

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Posted by: Bobby.3721

Bobby.3721

usually the ones i run into blind me, knock me down, or immobilize me somehow to where I can’t do anything. Next time I see one Ill try what u said.

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

usually the ones i run into blind me, knock me down, or immobilize me somehow to where I can’t do anything.

Bring Stability.
With Thieves, if you can survive the initial damage, you can scare them off. Killing them is harder, because they’ve got a lot of escape mechanisms.

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Silver.8023

Silver.8023

I wouldn’t say a thief does no damage, they can clearly do heaps! However, the best way I’ve dealt with them is just to be bloody tough! Once they’ve unloaded all their initiative on you, they can either die or run away. Sometimes, and I know this can be a waste, I like to cast Shelter right when they start spamming Heartseeker, that skill along with Defender’s Flame (Valour II) is golden Yes I spell Valour with a ‘U’…
Bringing a hammer really helps too as you can often trap them if they don’t have too many shadowstep moves on them. Sometimes they simply forget to use them anyway since they’re busy being trapped
If they use a shortbow or pistol(s), use Wall of Reflection if you have it available. It’s astounding how many people are willing to unload all their damage into their own face multiple times.

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Kaimoon Blade – Warrior
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Posted by: chtiyonki.6284

chtiyonki.6284

To deal 1vs1 against Thief I stay very aggressive, if the guy see you can kill him or if he is scared for his life he will just flee. If the guy see he can kill you he will stick.

Guanglai Kangyi advices are nice.

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Posted by: edamber.1549

edamber.1549

For me as a thief Guardians is the hardest class to kill, mesmer is close second. I run a condition build but you guys seem to full heal all the time, can’t get you down :/

Just use your heals and wear the thief down, clutch dodges are good too. BS thiefs are gimmicky, just survive the initial burst and its autowin

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Posted by: kaffaljidhma.1496

kaffaljidhma.1496

Front load all your protection and know when you’ve been thief pinned. Pop any of the guardian stun breaks and protection, then go for the annoying block combos: Mace/focus, shelter, courage + resolve → renewed focus → courage.

Don’t run away cause they do extra damage to the back.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

The way to deal with a thief.

If he goes for a backstab, your aegis should take care of it. He will try again since they got that buff it won’t take him out of stealth.

Mostly I just blind,blind,blind

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Posted by: Littlefeather.8623

Littlefeather.8623

Get bursted, cant see him, aoe (dont even have to move) halfway health shelter/block. Thief down, free badges. Works for me everytime.

Aegis, he burns
Symbol of wraith, he burns and I gain retaliation
GS AoE
I heal with shelter, he burns.

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Posted by: Kerithlan.1659

Kerithlan.1659

Survive the burst and turn to face them. Be careful of how you’re kiting and be willing to spend a dodge roll to position yourself if you have to. If you’re getting jumped from behind, you can break stun and dodge backward to reset your situation. If you’re a heavy crit build and have at least 5 points in Honor you’ll be able to dodge almost toe-to-toe with the thief, assuming you land hits.

Other than that the guardian is more or less a hard counter to the thief, assuming players of equal skill. Condition removal helps as a general rule, so you can consider bringing the Purity trait (10 point valor) and/or Signet of Resolve to help with those if you need to.

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Posted by: Ojimaru.8970

Ojimaru.8970

Retaliation and Toughness.

I begin these fights with Save Yourselves and Stand Your Ground. Wait for the Thief to roll his face on his keyboard while I lay down Circle of Warding.

As somebody quite aptly said, “Save Yourselves” isn’t a Shout meant for friendly members, but for the enemy.

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Posted by: lcc.9374

lcc.9374

I also go very aggressive against thieves. Although more toughness and vitality should work very well against those guys too.

Dead thieves and thieves running for their lives do no damage.

Most of the time i find the guardian class to be a very good thief counter. The only problem is that they could be very slippery and be able to get away. Luckily that doesnt happen too much.

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Posted by: timecookie.8570

timecookie.8570

I have no prob with thieves (100% victory so far in a 1v1 situation in WvW / I only do WvW for monthly achievements though and don’t play sPvP as Guardian).
I run a 0/0/30/30/10, Aegis gives retaliation, +toughness with shield, retaliation +25 % duration, shouts recharge faster, gain might on crit (pick whatever you like), Altruistic Healing all the way.
Scepter and Shield. Choose your second weapon set. Shelter as healing skill, Retreat! Save Yourselves! and Judge’s Intervention because teleportation is great in WvW. Renewed Focus so you can get 2 extra Aegis. About attributes try to have a bit of everthing and you’re fine but Retaliation goes with Toughness.

Buff with retaliation+protection+regen and everything you can find on your way and shoot orbs till he dies. Seriously that’s quite simple.

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