[DH PvP Build] Altruistic Hambow

[DH PvP Build] Altruistic Hambow

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Posted by: Soryuju.8164

Soryuju.8164

Hey all, with beta drawing to a close, I wanted to share a DH Longbow build I had reasonable success with in PvP. This was tested primarily in Unranked matches (mostly because I didn’t want to get grief for bringing a beta character into Ranked matches).

Partial Build setup (excluding DH traits/weapons):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQFASlsAhahYrQwUIQQEGMEFuCSuR4WsdZAA-TJBFABFcBAEvMQN7PAwDAAA

Other Components:

Longbow (Air/Blood or Air/Fire sigils)

Alternate Rune Set: Soldier, specifically for fighting condition-heavy teams, or if your team is lacking cleansing. I like to run Pack Runes when I’m able, though, because they synergize with AH while giving you almost permanent swiftness and 80% crit chance (which is awesome for Mighty Blow, True Shot, and Hunter’s Ward).

DH Traits: Soaring Devastation, Hunter’s Determination, Hunter’s Fortification

Concept:

This build was born mostly out of frustrations with the new DH Virtues and Longbow, and in the end, I built for the Longbow while turning my focus away from Virtues. My intial tests were with Meditation builds, but I found that Meditations weren’t offering me the setup I needed to compensate for the Longbow’s long cast times and self-roots, and that I lacked the mobility needed to properly kite with the Longbow.

As it happens, Shouts fix most of these issues. They provide Quickness, Stability, and Swiftness for the DH, which work wonderfully with both the Hammer and Longbow skills. The loss of the Virtues traitline gives you less sustain than AH builds that aren’t running DH, but the ability to kite and position freely with the Longbow offsets this and lets you focus on pressuring the opposing team.

It’s fair to ask why you shouldn’t just drop DH for Virtues and run Scepter/Focus instead of Longbow. My answer is that Longbow is devastating in teamfights when paired with Quickness and Stability. I would generally approach teamfights with Symbol of Energy and Deflecting Shot, and then when I was at mid-range, I’d cast SYG/FMW and follow up with Hunter’s Ward. That alone ended more than a few teamfights, since opponents aren’t expecting such a fast cast from HW. Most of their team gets snared while your team receives Quickness, Fury, and Stability, and since Hunter’s Ward is coming off of 75-80% crit chance, it’s also pumping out an easy 4-5k damage to each target. Seeing 3 or more people go down on the final pulse isn’t unusual, and it’s easy to clean up anything that lives with True Shot, your Hammer, and the leap from Soaring Devastation.

That said, good positioning is important with this build, because you need to balance your personal survival and your team support. With the Longbow, you usually want to be kiting around the edges of a teamfight, rather than sniping from 1200 range, since your Shouts won’t reach your allies if you’re beyond 600 range. Dropping surprise True Shots and Hunter’s Wards from 1200 range before entering the fight can be effective, but that’s not how you want to spend a majority of your time. Hammer sustains well enough in most teamfights, but being able to switch to Longbow for kiting, extra Vigor, and Deflecting Shot is always a good fallback when pressure starts rising too high.

To wrap this up, I felt like I had a significant presence in most teamfights using this build along with respectable sustain, damage, and mobility. Feedback on the build is welcome, since I’m sure some improvements can be made, and hopefully some people have a chance to test the build out before the beta ends. Thanks for taking the time to read!

[DH PvP Build] Altruistic Hambow

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Posted by: Odyssey.6523

Odyssey.6523

I tried this this morning and it worked pretty well. Definitely one of the few viable builds for PvP with the DH.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Have you tried Smite/JI/SYG, full medi trait and Soldiers? You trade swiftness for more potential engagement utilities with JI and burst damages with Smite. JI is another stunbreak when the going gets tough too.

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Posted by: Soryuju.8164

Soryuju.8164

I tried this this morning and it worked pretty well. Definitely one of the few viable builds for PvP with the DH.

Glad to hear it worked well for you! Hopefully future betas will see improvements to the DH, so we can enjoy greater build diversity across all game modes. I’m rooting for Trap DH and more options for condi builds, but I just don’t see it yet.

Have you tried Smite/JI/SYG, full medi trait and Soldiers? You trade swiftness for more potential engagement utilities with JI and burst damages with Smite. JI is another stunbreak when the going gets tough too.

When you say Soldiers, do you mean the runes (to work with SYG), or the amulet? I did try out a couple Medi builds early on with the DH, but I had mixed results, and I suspect that part of it was because I was still getting used to the DH’s clunkier Virtues. I don’t see why Meditations wouldn’t work, and the first draft of this build actually used JI instead of Retreat to help close gaps quickly when switching from LB to Hammer. When I tested out Retreat instead, though, it felt like the build really came together. Retreat allows me to rotate quickly between teamfights while engaging and disengaging more freely (instead of just letting me close in from a distance). It makes it much easier to kite opponents, and it also gives me two consecutive blocks for allies thanks to Communal Defenses (in addition to condition conversion from PoV). JI did let me set up Hammer CC with minimal risk, but Feel My Wrath already fills a similar role, so I ended up dropping JI.

I leaned toward Shouts when designing the build because I feel that LB mostly excels in teamfights (at least until they improve the slow, rooting casts and the inability to cast skills behind you), and I wanted to maximize the utility I was bringing to the team. I can definitely see the merit in your suggested setup, though unfortunately, I won’t have time to try it out before beta ends.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Right I meant soldier runes :P

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