Guild Wars 2

Talking only from PvP perspective. Am i the only one who feels that dragonhunter’ s virtues are super clunky, especially WoR? WoR clunkiness kills me faster and more often than enemies really. What would be so OP about making them instacast like normal guardian ones? And the synergy with RF is so bad now, not to mention the bug when RF doesn’t even recharge virtues, gee thanks.

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

People have been complaining since day 1 of DH virtues being clunky due to having cast times, but the new virtues are on average so much more powerful than previous versions that I think it is a worthwhile trade off. The only change in terms of RF is that you can’t activate the virtues while channeling RF, but it wouldn’t make sense to do it with the new virtues anyways.

Keksmuffin.1450:

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

Yea and what’s wrong with it? There are things that are not broken nowadays?

wasted.6817:

Keksmuffin.1450:

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

Yea and what’s wrong with it? There are things that are not broken nowadays?

Guardian has never been on the top half of best classes except a couple metas where bunker guard was 4th just because everything else sucked. Anet completely refuses to make guardian strong because its never been complete garbage compared to all other classes thus they never get the complete reworks that necro, Mesmer, thief, ele, ranger,and warrior have gotten at some point. So they will continue with its stupid clunkiness and reliance on CDs beyond any other class and total dependence on our valor and virtues lines (and now dh). All because our weapons and base class mechanics are actually the freaking worst of every class in the game imo.
Don’t expect a real change ever. They don’t care.

wasted.6817:

Am i the only one who feels that dragonhunter’ s virtues are super clunky, especially WoR? WoR clunkiness kills me faster and more often than enemies really.

Just try not to treat WoR as a “panic button” too much.

If Wings of Resolve had Evade during the Leap, it would be fixed.

Booms.3952:

wasted.6817:

Keksmuffin.1450:

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

Yea and what’s wrong with it? There are things that are not broken nowadays?

Guardian has never been on the top half of best classes except a couple metas where bunker guard was 4th just because everything else sucked.

Hammer guard / burn guard had a high place in meta…dont get me wrong i wouldnt mind a boost to us tho!!

I like the evade idea. But what i would really want is that WoR would condi clear at the start of animation instead of the end, to make it reliable.

I posted this in the past…
something to the effect of the F4 virtue which is a switch for either new virtues or old virtues.

Upgraded virtue effects from the virtues line should activate as soon as the skill goes off, not once the cast is finished… My 2 cents

I think that they have something to do with server pinging, similar to the way gliders used to work before the patch, where it sends a request to the server, the server checks back to see if we are in position, we send another message to the server telling it that we are casting, and then the server distributes information.

I’d be interested to see how the skill works with 5 ping as opposed to 200

So, having tiny cast times makes guardian virtues clunky? It makes sense for the new virtues to have cast times due to their more impactful uses.

Don’t think that they are clunky, but imho Shield of Courage should be insta cast and Wings of Resolve should work exactly as a GS #3 leap instead of ground target.

Nerthus.3592:

Wings of Resolve should work exactly as a GS #3 leap instead of ground target.

That would get clunky, to say the least, in situations where you need to heal your allies.

Keksmuffin.1450:

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

Not even close to true. Guardians are clearly at there low point ever at least when it comes to spvp. They have never been weaker. DH virtues need some more tweaking.

Booms.3952:

wasted.6817:

Keksmuffin.1450:

They would be pretty broken if they wouldn’t be clunky.

Yea and what’s wrong with it? There are things that are not broken nowadays?

Guardian has never been on the top half of best classes except a couple metas where bunker guard was 4th just because everything else sucked. Anet completely refuses to make guardian strong because its never been complete garbage compared to all other classes thus they never get the complete reworks that necro, Mesmer, thief, ele, ranger,and warrior have gotten at some point. So they will continue with its stupid clunkiness and reliance on CDs beyond any other class and total dependence on our valor and virtues lines (and now dh). All because our weapons and base class mechanics are actually the freaking worst of every class in the game imo.
Don’t expect a real change ever. They don’t care.

I would bet they would prefer to remove guardian from game and spread what guardian does good to other classes….

add traits on warrior to become more like a heal symbol guard(even if does not work), ele with consecrations etc.

Nerthus.3592:

Don’t think that they are clunky, but imho Shield of Courage should be insta cast and Wings of Resolve should work exactly as a GS #3 leap instead of ground target.

Jesus! you can’t be serious….it would be totally useless and good bye to a perfect utility for the hardest jumping puzzles out there.