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Posted by: LionChain.7694

LionChain.7694

Plz make F2 an evade…it’s too easy to be interrupted while casting this, and if it gets interrupted, it goes on full CD w/o getting the heal.

Also, plz reduce the CD on DH f3 a little…now that the block duration has been nerfed, I feel the CD needs to be reconsidered for this skill. I’m not talking about anything crazy, but like maybe reduce it by 5 sec or something.

Finally, the trait Power of the Virtuous (which gives 15% reduction to virtues’ CD’s) is buggy w/ the DH f1-3 CD’s. The F1 skill should be 17 sec w/ the trait, but instead it’s 17.5 sec. The F2 should be 25.5 sec, but it’s 26. And the F3 should be 63.75 sec, but it’s 65.25. Unless I’m missing something (in which case, forgive me), this should be addressed b/c the F1-3 skills aren’t getting the full proper reduction to their CD’s, especially the F3 one, which is 1.5 sec longer than it should be.

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Posted by: alain.1659

alain.1659

Wut? Dude…Seriously? DH virtues are one of the best f skills in the game (in my opinion). They do not need any more buffing. They are way too good, only balanced because of the low health pool of DH.

That trait thingy needs to be adjusted though. I did not check it myself but if it is the situation, they should fix it.

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Posted by: Mikhael.2391

Mikhael.2391

I agree with the f2. Only thing i would have changed.

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Posted by: phokus.8934

phokus.8934

F2 needs some sort of counter play. It’s fine as it is today.

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Posted by: Mikhael.2391

Mikhael.2391

F2 needs some sort of counter play. It’s fine as it is today.

It actually be a nerf in terms targeting where to go but more Qol .

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

@OP Get stability before use F2, or face target with f3 up be sure nothis is at your side or behind u if u dont have stability.

Casting f2 with focus 5 might also work if want to save stability for other ocasion.

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Posted by: Arcaedus.7290

Arcaedus.7290

Would much rather have the startup and aftercast of f2 reduced (especially startup). I hate that this skill is used selfishly more often than not. Like phokus said, f2 needs counterplay so an evade on it would not be a good idea.

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Posted by: otto.5684

otto.5684

TBH, for F2, if the skill goes on 4 second interruption CD, instead of losing on the heal and the passive, that will make more sense, since all other healing skills (and all none channeling skills), just go on 4 second CD if they get interrupted.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

what i hate on f2 being interrupted is that sometimes goes full CD -.-"

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Posted by: AGGabriel.9230

AGGabriel.9230

They already fkt up 1 of the virtue (SoC) guaranteed that they nerf the res,t my prediction is that they nerf the spear because some profession complain is a pull and unblockable.
And the WoR its way to easily to be slowed interrupted and hard to angle were you land and worst of all its action is way to slow, the enemy can see were you land and it doesn’t care the heal from it ist very low
Just making dreams that turn to nightmares by them, the SoC is the first

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Posted by: JustCurious.3457

JustCurious.3457

Finally, the trait Power of the Virtuous (which gives 15% reduction to virtues’ CD’s) is buggy w/ the DH f1-3 CD’s. The F1 skill should be 17 sec w/ the trait, but instead it’s 17.5 sec. The F2 should be 25.5 sec, but it’s 26. And the F3 should be 63.75 sec, but it’s 65.25. Unless I’m missing something (in which case, forgive me), this should be addressed b/c the F1-3 skills aren’t getting the full proper reduction to their CD’s, especially the F3 one, which is 1.5 sec longer than it should be.

This trait has always been this way.
Before the specialization patch it was always worded as a ‘Recharge Rate Increase’, which is different from cooldown reduction but made sense. The calculation it is currently doing isn’t 20 * 0.85 = 17 (Using VoJ as an example) but rather 20 / 1.15 = 17.39130434… which it rounds to 17.5.
In other words the cooldown isn’t being reduced by 15%, but rather the rate at which we recharge is being increased by 15%.

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Posted by: LionChain.7694

LionChain.7694

@JustCurious…ah, thanks for that..tho, i wish they would just change it to a cd reduction instead of an increase to recharge speed, but that’s just my opinion

@Aeolus…thnx for the suggestions, but i already know all that, the reason y i wrote a request on the forums for F2 to be buffed was b/c i use shield over focus cuz i like the utility more, and im playing meditrap so im not using stand your ground, so F3 is my only stab (that or the stunbreak trap trait, which, i dont get stab unless that trait procs from a cc)…so if i know, or suspect, im about to get interrupted, i have to pop my f3 if i want to guarantee i will get f2 off (which causes me to spend a big cd), or i have to wait till i retreat a certain distance till i feel im far enough to have a better chance of getting it off (which isnt always possible b/c of certain factors like getting attacked by long range or a class w/ a lot of gap closers)…so i asked for this buff so i can save my big cd’s like f3 (or even focus 5 if u r running focus, b/c even focus 5 has a pretty long cd) for when i truly need them, and also so the class can have a better way of resetting against classes with a lot of big range damage (ex. if i use F2 and at same time, some druid comes up and pew pews me with rapid fire, their range dmg is so great that it will negate pretty much ne healing i get from F2)…i also asked for this buff b/c of the nerfs to sustain like purification, F3 shield block reduction, and Hunter’s Determination…imo, i dont think this buff is too much to ask for, especially considering that if my request was granted, it would make it roughly on par with the druid staff 3 skill in terms of pros and cons in comparing the two skills, ancestral grace…ancestral grace gives a considerably smaller amount of heal and no condi removal, sure, but it still has the advantage of having longer range, shorter cd and 0.25 sec more of evade, and i believe a smaller aftercast delay…dh F2 would have more heal and condi removal, but even though it would also evade, its evade duration would be shorter, have a longer cd and shorter range and slightly longer aftercast delay…also ancestral grace has a blast finisher that creates aoe benefits to allies when used on fields, whereas dh’s F2 is a leap finisher, so any benefits it gets from leaping from fields would be limited to the dh itself

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

The only virtues that should be getting buffs are base guardian virtues.

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Posted by: Pregnantman.8259

Pregnantman.8259

I think Shield of Courage can lose its Aegis and Virtue of Courage can have a smaller cooldown like 40-50 sec. Virtue of Resolve can have the same amount of heal with Wings of Resolve with 35-40 sec cooldown. Virtue of Justice should either provide more burning or some other support on its active or have its cooldown reduced to 10-15 seconds.

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Posted by: Tenrai Senshi.2017

Tenrai Senshi.2017

To be honest, Wings of Resolve is fine as is and does not need a buff. It has a good area heal (nearly 4000 hp), condition removal, immobilize removal, is good for mobility, can even leap across gaps (allowing you to make jumps you couldn’t make normally), is a leap finisher and has a relatively shot cooldown for all those benefits (30 seconds untraited and 26 seconds traited).

It’s really hard to justify a buff to it to be honest. X__X