Guild Wars 2

I thought i was screwed going toe to toe with this necro turns out he was power, instead of Condi, I still thought i would lose though, But are Guardians actually better vs power Necros, than condis? I know i made some mistakes using shouts or condi remove early instead of waiting for more stuff to be put on me but i felt i had to get the aegis vs the powe, not sure if that was it though or if he was just glassy.

could someone comment this video for me?

Why is he using healing signet over Shelter?
Why is he using Tome of Courage over Renewed Focus?
Why is he not doding?
And what is the purpose of using ‘Retreat!’ in an sPvP match?

I am only familiar with bunker or Meditation Guardians and do not recognize the build of playstyle :/

Gorath.5076:

could someone comment this video for me?

Why is he using healing signet over Shelter?
Why is he using Tome of Courage over Renewed Focus?
Why is he not doding?
And what is the purpose of using ‘Retreat!’ in an sPvP match?

I am only familiar with bunker or Meditation Guardians and do not recognize the build of playstyle :/

-Healing Signet cause i traited it for less cooldown so i heal more often.

-Tome of courage over Renewed focus so don’t lose capture point duration and overall i last long with the constant protection 100% heal with a chance to heal up nearby allies and the interrupt.

-I dodge as often as possible I got game lag all the sudden that one time

-Retreat was for the swiftness aegis and 2 condi removal and again cause of the short cooldown. I don’t use staff so i need a decent swiffness duration form a source.

I think he has not understood how massively OP absolute resolution yet is why he takes tome. also he has not discovered how to zoom out.

i guess retreat got a buff in cooldown so it’s actually viable now… most guards still avoid it like the plague (I didn’t even realize it got a reduced CD til just now)

he is not dodging because he undervalues it and because he is not running energy sigils

there was a time when everyone ran healing signet over shelter… i think it has a place in high vitality builds that heal early and can survive an interrupt

also power necros are only a threat in deathshroud… that is when you start popping abilities to survive since it drains out naturally. Playing around spinal shivers proc is… next to impossible since its a proc.. just be aware you will get chunked when you hit 50% hp

ens.9854:

I think he has not understood how massively OP absolute resolution yet is why he takes tome. also he has not discovered how to zoom out.

i guess retreat got a buff in cooldown so it’s actually viable now… most guards still avoid it like the plague (I didn’t even realize it got a reduced CD til just now)

he is not dodging because he undervalues it and because he is not running energy sigils

there was a time when everyone ran healing signet over shelter… i think it has a place in high vitality builds that heal early and can survive an interrupt

also power necros are only a threat in deathshroud… that is when you start popping abilities to survive since it drains out naturally. Playing around spinal shivers proc is… next to impossible since its a proc.. just be aware you will get chunked when you hit 50% hp

I am using Absoulute resolution, i just used it early when i realize i wasn’t fighting a condi necro. but yeah i should have held back regardless

my zoom was down on my vertically setting casue i was takeing screenshots for my Twitch Banner.

I got lag when i tried to dodge those times.

I may use shelter instead of signeet of resolve though now that you mentioned it vs teams with multiple rapid hitters like theives rangers though. Thanks.

ha, ok! that actually makes sense to me!
Still: is it worth using an entire utility slot for a few seconds of aegis and speed only? But then you said you have traited shouts and use pure of Voice, right?

And concerning the tomes you also got a point: they grant you more time on point. I am just no fan of them since you lose your entire weapon set + cant swap for its duration. And since I haven’t seen any build using it lately I thought the ‘general guardian public’ would agree with me.

thanks for shedding some light

As someone who plays a little bit of Necromancer, but isn’t good at PvP:

That necro (Rosalia at the end, right?) seemed like they were caught between a power build and a bunker build. No dagger, and not a lot of damage, but only one stun break (Flesh Wurm) and they certainly didn’t have Foot in the Grave. So all of your movement disruption (Banish, Ring of Warding) was at full effectiveness.

By comparison, their control / movement disruption was mostly fears, either from Reaper’s Protection (AoE Fear on being disabled) or Doom, which you were usually cleansing before you were even off point.

That’s stuff I noticed, at least.

Edit: Also, that you managed to complete Light of Deliverance was huge. If they had known what was coming, a single fear from death shroud or the fear mark on Staff would have given them a real shot at finishing you off.

There’s nothing wrong with using “Retreat”. Its short cd, swiftness and aoe block isn’t bad. The one thing a shout guardian absolutely needs is “Stand Your Ground” and he’s using it. I would recommend “Save Yourselves” but his team isn’t hurting for more Conditions…. unless of course he faces a heavy condi team.

As to OP’s question, if you’re medi Guard the difficulty between power and condi Necros is about the same. That said, a good Necro’s would have interrupt that 3s Healing Signet of yours. Then he would have CC’d you till kingdom-come once he knew your elite was a Tomb. He wasn’t exactly the greatest power (idk what build he was trying to run) necro in the world.

We’ve used to get CC’d so hard that we’d hardly get off #5 in Tomb. Until they gave us the stability trait, it wasn’t the most effective Elite. If you were to face any class that knew how to CC, you wouldn’t have gotten that heal off so easily. Unless you saved your stability or actually peeled away, healing yourself, you may still be able to use Tomb of Courage effectively. Against low tier players, it doesn’t matter because anything works.

Gorath.5076:

could someone comment this video for me?

Why is he using healing signet over Shelter?
Why is he using Tome of Courage over Renewed Focus?
Why is he not doding?
And what is the purpose of using ‘Retreat!’ in an sPvP match?

I am only familiar with bunker or Meditation Guardians and do not recognize the build of playstyle :/

1. Cuz he hasn’t faced targets who interrupt kitten like that easily.
2. Because he isn’t a smart man
3. See above.
4. See above.

Healing Signet over Shelter is a thing, but it’s usually when you know for a fact that the entire team you’re facing is condi. Traited, the CD is 32 seconds, which is only 2 seconds longer than Shelter. You get a heal “twice” as much as shelter, the passive condi removal, but you lose valuable blocks (mitigation), and if traited, might stacks. It’s not a bad choice, but “less optimal” than what you’d normally run. Using your dodges enough, you don’t need a heal that big that often.

I have literally no idea what ToC is over RF. There’s niche uses for it, like group support, the 100% stat boost to Vitality and toughness (I think toughness), and the heals. The issue with this is that the cooldown is stupid long, the duration, unless traited, is stupid short, 4/5 of the skills are basically useless, and it’s just… “sub optimal.” Again, if there were more dodges used, health, theoretically, won’t be needed as much, which negates the usefulness of the 1 skill on ToC that’s worth it.

I have no idea. Some people don’t use it much, more of a “L2P” thing, in the least rudest manner I can say that in. Could be lag.

Retreat is usually for mobility, but also useful for Aegis (block), and, in turn, 20% more damage from unscathed contender. It has it’s places.