I played a ton of Revenant over my first day of playing HoT but Dragonhunter took the cake as the class I had the most fun on after only about 3 games.
Thats how I feel about dragonhunter too phanta, and ironically the power build I ended up with after hours of testing was very similar to yours. I took the same traits, and the same utilities except for the elite trap instead of renewed focus (risky I know). I did have a hard time deciding which weapon to use as an offset to longbow, since hammer, GS, and sw/f all offer nice and useful things and damage, so I was wondering why you picked sword/focus, when its damage is strictly lower than the other two melee weapon choices that are associated with DPS guardian, did you feel like the mobility/survivability woould be more useful since you had longbow and test of faith to make up for the loss in cleave damage?
And yeah, test of faith got made into the perfect trap for a burst build since it was changed to be instant. Its so much fun pulling people into it with F1!
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Thats how I feel about dragonhunter too phanta, and ironically the power build I ended up with after hours of testing was very similar to yours. I took the same traits, and the same utilities except for the elite trap instead of renewed focus (risky I know). I did have a hard time deciding which weapon to use as an offset to longbow, since hammer, GS, and sw/f all offer nice and useful things and damage, so I was wondering why you picked sword/focus, when its damage is strictly lower than the other two melee weapon choices that are associated with DPS guardian, did you feel like the mobility/survivability woould be more useful since you had longbow and test of faith to make up for the loss in cleave damage?
And yeah, test of faith got made into the perfect trap for a burst build since it was changed to be instant. Its so much fun pulling people into it with F1!
You are exactly right I like the sword focus for mobility/kiting/utility etc all that jazz. I use the longbow like 80% of the time in combat likely. If I knew for some reason both teams would be dedicated to team fighting I likely would not take sword focus and instead take hammer, greatsword, or even mace/focus perhaps. However in the meta nowadays, and almost always in solo queue, having that map utility really helps.
Thats how I feel about dragonhunter too phanta, and ironically the power build I ended up with after hours of testing was very similar to yours. I took the same traits, and the same utilities except for the elite trap instead of renewed focus (risky I know). I did have a hard time deciding which weapon to use as an offset to longbow, since hammer, GS, and sw/f all offer nice and useful things and damage, so I was wondering why you picked sword/focus, when its damage is strictly lower than the other two melee weapon choices that are associated with DPS guardian, did you feel like the mobility/survivability woould be more useful since you had longbow and test of faith to make up for the loss in cleave damage?
And yeah, test of faith got made into the perfect trap for a burst build since it was changed to be instant. Its so much fun pulling people into it with F1!
You are exactly right I like the sword focus for mobility/kiting/utility etc all that jazz. I use the longbow like 80% of the time in combat likely. If I knew for some reason both teams would be dedicated to team fighting I likely would not take sword focus and instead take hammer, greatsword, or even mace/focus perhaps. However in the meta nowadays, and almost always in solo queue, having that map utility really helps.
Okay thanks for the response, I can see that being very important, I took traveler runes today out of laziness, when sword probably would have done me more good, especailly since there were many fights where I had to use GS or hammer very sparringly in a teamfight considering how much cleave some teams can put out.
Do you think this type of dragonhunter build would be viable at higher tier play compared to say, burn-guard pre-HoT?
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Yes but will you play it in serious pvp. Thats the only question that matters. You are one of the best players on the planet when you face run of the mill players you can face roll with mostly anything. Is DH something you think you could play in a serious tournament?
Yes but will you play it in serious pvp. Thats the only question that matters. You are one of the best players on the planet when you face run of the mill players you can face roll with mostly anything. Is DH something you think you could play in a serious tournament?
I concur.
Any Power/Condi build can work in solo pvp – some builds may even be more OP than others but what really matters is whether or not the build will work against any competitive, highly synchronized, TPvP teams.
It’s going to take numerous theory crafting, dueling, and team vs team skirmish matches to figure out exactly which build under performs. I imagine it’ll take a good month or two until the new meta settles. Heck, I’m still trying to learn all the other specs; figuring out how to counter play them effectively!
To OP, DH is freakin’ awesome!
Oh and big fan, I want your entire team to sign my chest. I’m going to wax a special spot just for yall </3
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DH definitely feels like its in a better place then before. LB feels more responsive. The F1 pull is fantastic.
I think the virtues still need work though. I’m not talking major overhaul just some very minor changes. Any guardian would probably agree that at least the F1 and the
F3 should not interrupt skills while casting. This really changes the feel for setting up bursts and stomping. It’s almost like being a dagger/x thief in stealth and taking away backstab. The change in mechanic just don’t feel right , least in a PvP setting. PvE’rs might not have the same concerns.
I’m so glad to see a well skilled player champion the Dragonhunter. I have for some time and yet many friends still think it’s a poor elite specialization.
My variable is sometimes swapping in Dragon’s Maw, simply because it allows me to 1-shot a lot of players, especially with all 3 traps triggering. Very good on Stronghold when defending. I also use Sigil of Intelligence of Bow to gaurentee #2 crit’s every time. Works wonders.
Really digging the changes I’m seeing there from when I tried (and hated) DH back in BWE2. The instant cast virtues are a huge improvement. That trap is also huge when used on a d/d ele, because it kills their manic mobility. Can’t wait to give it a shot later today.
Anyone taken full traps, + rune of the trapper for a spin yet? I played a handful of matches with this build yesterday, it’s pretty kitten dope. You can charge into the middle of a large brawl, lay down your traps, and peel off in stealth/super speed. If no one decides to pressure you, then they can have fun eating 5-7k trueshot crits.
For soloQ I had absolutely amazing results with this. It takes a coordinated or fortuitous burst down by the opposing team to take you out. I found I could hold my own against decent chronomancers, classic PU mes, thieves, rangers, and classic med guards in 1v1s, and it took two gank to be able to take me out using this build! Probably won’t see any play in top tier ranked, but it’s fun as hell in unranked/soloQ!
I have been running a trap bunker build with retaliation….I can take on 3 people at the same time for a WHILE, and kill 2 people at the same time.
Weakness is of course conditions with no removal to be heard of, but usually…they don’t last that long. I 1v1’d a reaper(the hardest hitting one I have met yet, and he knew his kitten) and he blew EVERYTHING and I still had around 4khp for a stab stomp.
Anyone taken full traps, + rune of the trapper for a spin yet? I played a handful of matches with this build yesterday, it’s pretty kitten dope. You can charge into the middle of a large brawl, lay down your traps, and peel off in stealth/super speed. If no one decides to pressure you, then they can have fun eating 5-7k trueshot crits.
For soloQ I had absolutely amazing results with this. It takes a coordinated or fortuitous burst down by the opposing team to take you out. I found I could hold my own against decent chronomancers, classic PU mes, thieves, rangers, and classic med guards in 1v1s, and it took two gank to be able to take me out using this build! Probably won’t see any play in top tier ranked, but it’s fun as hell in unranked/soloQ!
I totally agree that it is a fun-kitten -build to do in soloQ, With any decent teams though you’ll definitely have problems unless perhaps your in a team that is working around that.
a lot of the new runes have potential, trapper rune is definitely fun and refreshing for classes that have been non-stealth.
Anyone taken full traps, + rune of the trapper for a spin yet? I played a handful of matches with this build yesterday, it’s pretty kitten dope. You can charge into the middle of a large brawl, lay down your traps, and peel off in stealth/super speed. If no one decides to pressure you, then they can have fun eating 5-7k trueshot crits.
For soloQ I had absolutely amazing results with this. It takes a coordinated or fortuitous burst down by the opposing team to take you out. I found I could hold my own against decent chronomancers, classic PU mes, thieves, rangers, and classic med guards in 1v1s, and it took two gank to be able to take me out using this build! Probably won’t see any play in top tier ranked, but it’s fun as hell in unranked/soloQ!
Phantaram just gave you a guarantee that you will see this in top tier play?
I played a ton of Revenant over my first day of playing HoT but Dragonhunter took the cake as the class I had the most fun on after only about 3 games.
Cool to see some highly regarded players taking the stand on Dragon Hunter awesomeness, both in effectiveness and fun. Now for a stupid question… How do I use sword blink for mobility if I don’t have a target? My skill just goes off and I go nowhere. kitten I feel like such a noob right now.
