Guild Wars 2

Guys I need your opinion of this modified shout guardian. I’ve always wanted to find a good use for sentinel builds outside of WvW. I’ve drafted this build and have tested it a bit and it plays quite good. I just need a bit of input from the community regarding what they think could improve it.

The base armor is Sentinels, knights for trinks, let me know what you guys think!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJARSlsApZotCxfH8DRBDBljNYnhNk8rLQECAA-T1hFABAcJAG4JAY0+D/pEcJlfrpLQR1fCAgAczbGAG6QH6QH6Q7mD9m3co3sUAWsMC-w

Are you saying this build is for everywhere like WvW, PvE? Because that’s pretty bad in PvE. Bad gear, bad trait.

There is no use for a Sentinel build outside of WvW, even in WvW you’re better off just going Soldier over Sentinel a majority of the time.

Sentinels isn’t even good for WvW unless maybe you’re commanding and getting pin sniped. As previously mentioned, you should go soldiers over sentinels. Instead of trying to explain everything wrong with this build I’d rather just give you this link; http://www.metabattle.com

Sentinel is a bit overkill and base power tends to be more important. Health is overrated due to the existence of guard stacks.

PvE should be zerker gear/scholar and don’t go AH; it is simply bad, bad, bad for pve. You’d have even less damage than soldier. As for wvw, scholar runes aren’t going to be so hot because being frontline you’re not going to be staying above 90% always.

Save yourselves is generally a bad idea without supreme condition removal (say Absolute Resolution + Melandru Runes + Traited Purging Flames) You’d almost always be better off with hold the line.

Here’s how I would modify your build for wvw:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJARWlsApZotCxWI8DRRCBljNY/hQ88rDwFOAA-TlCEABFqEMKlcQqShBXAgmUOoo6KtpLAgDBQM7P8wTAIAACwNvZ28mBG6QH6QH6Q7mD9m3co3sUAMpMC-w

Of course, as with all 0/1/6/6/1 builds, they are on the selfish end but bring more damage; in a more organized group you will probably want to use the meta 0/0/6/4/4 and use soldier instead of sentinel. Add as much soldier trinkets/weapons as you need.

If the goal of the build is to make everyone else in your party do the killing for you and to be a walking punching-bag, this will work. On a more serious note, don’t do it, there are builds and gear for PVE, for WvW and for PvP. You won’t be able to make a “Everywhere build” for guard.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks guys. So I guess, there is no conceivable way Sentinels can be useful in PVE/Dungeon environment? If the build is shifted toward full Knights, will that be more viable?

Not really. The point is that diversity in build come from Trait, Sigil, Skills and Weapons, not from gear. So your gear choice will only reflect a balance between personnal surviability and damage.

You can survive wihtout defensive stats and that your goal would be to any none by running zerker or assassins. Mix of those gear with some more defensive gear like knight are only good as you learn the game, content are profession. No need to go full zerker if its only to die often.

But as you get better, more defensive gear is totally useless.

I can pretty much survive on zerkers as I have a full set and I dont die often. My only goal was to find a good Sentinel’s build that goes with many tasks. Sounds like the consensus is that Sentinels = useless outside WvW which is a pity since sentinels frees up your last trait instead of opting for 300 vit.

You don’t need the 300 vit trait, even in berserker. Guards stacks+ food is already a free 3k health.

ThePaladin.2140:

I can pretty much survive on zerkers as I have a full set and I dont die often. My only goal was to find a good Sentinel’s build that goes with many tasks. Sounds like the consensus is that Sentinels = useless outside WvW which is a pity since sentinels frees up your last trait instead of opting for 300 vit.

That’s the thing, outside WvW you either need sentinels nor the 300 vitality from trait.

You don’t need sentinels or FoW in a WvW build. You’ll either be in nearly full zerk (maybe 1 or 2 knights pieces) if roaming in a medi build or a mix of soldiers/zerk/knights if AH frontline.

If you’re wondering what an AH frontline build should look like, here it is.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASWlsApVo1CxZI8DNBDRlZLsfYmBbw1RQGGAA-TlCEABRpUwJlBcpEkJlcG8AAUU9n20FAwRA4hLBQM7PEAAB4m3MbezADdoDdoDdodzbO0bO0hWKAmUGB-w

Let’s say for theorycrafting’s sake. Who here can make sentinel’s at least viable in pve ?

ThePaladin.2140:

Let’s say for theorycrafting’s sake. Who here can make sentinel’s at least viable in pve ?

Anyone really.

Just put sentinel armor and go. You’ll be able to complete pretty much any content anyway. Ppl did some joke running Arah naked or in full cleric with the dodge disabled. It will take longer, but you’ll be able to complete about anything.

Thaddeus.4891:

ThePaladin.2140:

Let’s say for theorycrafting’s sake. Who here can make sentinel’s at least viable in pve ?

Anyone really.

Just put sentinel armor and go. You’ll be able to complete pretty much any content anyway. Ppl did some joke running Arah naked or in full cleric with the dodge disabled. It will take longer, but you’ll be able to complete about anything.

Any way to speed it up with the right runes?

Scholar runes. You may want to use rangers’ since you’ll lack precision. The best way to speed it up is to not use sentinels in the first place, though;

ThePaladin.2140:

Let’s say for theorycrafting’s sake. Who here can make sentinel’s at least viable in pve ?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNApeWl0ApTo1DxYI0ENx8QVVAg9R0ER613QOMDA-TByGABA8EA8UJ4Q7Pcl+AsU/J3TBQWK/sy8ngAkF-e

I chose those utilities because obviously the ones with the longest cooldowns are the best. Shattered Aegis for the dps and warrior runes to quickly swap back to staff rotation after healing with mace. I can be the tank and healer with this build, sigils of water and renewal to keep my party up.

I’d do fractals with it if they had ascended sentinel trinkets.