Guild Wars 2

What do you think of Season 5 now that it’s been one week?

There was a lot of debate about burn vs. power. I’ve fought several burn Guardians/DHs in my matches and I’ve even seen one that was Platinum. There are still a lot more power DHs though

Core burn guard can be pushed into low platinum if played extremely well. Hell even then people will accuse you of playing an op gimmick build. Core burns with honor line gains strength from how it’s played, not because it’s combat power is stronger than hot builds.

Beyond plat it’s power with honor or virtues interchangeable. More group heals vs some condi clear and short stab. You do have to play a bit better if you choose honor.

I hate, hate, hate fighting Honor DHs.

DH is still better then burn guard by far. the problem is that core burn guard’s own skill floor isn’t that massively high compared to Dragonhunter. harder to use but not so hard that u need to massively outskill a DH player on lower levels.. DH is still easier to use but the core problem(yes pun intended) is that two noob players with one bieng core burn guard and the other one bieng DH is. That a noob dh will not have found the way to deal with conditions as effectily as a decent DH who is medi trapper as opposed to trapper dh. the playstyle of a noob DH is very static. and often it results in them dropping fragments of faith+ Dragonsmaw and procession of blades while standing on point, hoping for u to die. this counts in a lot of attacks that can be blocked procing amplied wrath+eventualy rune of the guardian. then they find themselves suddenly with 11 burn stacks and drop like flies. Newer players will generally have more problems with condi management due to how diverse condis are.

The moment both guardian players get better. U will see that medi trapper’s effectivness increases while that of burn guard loses effectivness relative to that of DH. DH will have more AOE pressure, better options for CC and ranged pressure, heck even better and slightly better mobility options. more sustain. While burn guard will continue to be reduced to a gimmick build the tougher the competion gets because then u will have people capable of condi managment and then u will notice the lack of cover conditions, this is talking about the general core burn guard. they are many variations of burn guardian/burn DH currently as the build is still in development in a sense since the recent buff. However most burn guards will come across the same problem.

my two cents on tihs matter.

Burn DH aren’t running traps.^ it’s still ji pf. You push it into higher tiers by going further than the 11 stacks you mentioned. Get good at it and push for 25 instant kill.

Gwaihir.1745:

Burn DH aren’t running traps.^ it’s still ji pf. You push it into higher tiers by going further than the 11 stacks you mentioned. Get good at it and push for 25 instant kill.

PF’s effectiveness lags behind Smite Condition & CoP in the higher levels. The casting time can really hurt you in clutch situations; like wise, Smite & CoP can save you.

It does depend on what kind of team composition the other team has. I roll with Burn Burst Core at the start of every game until I initially die, then run Power Medi. When Burn Guard works, it really works, capable of 1v2ing efficiently, offering team wide condi pressure that your comp may need.

My placement matches were terrible so i’m grinding it out but overall, this Season has been very fun for me at a steady 60% win rate.

Gwaihir.1745:

Burn DH aren’t running traps.^ it’s still ji pf. You push it into higher tiers by going further than the 11 stacks you mentioned. Get good at it and push for 25 instant kill.

yeah i know. and still any competent player will have no trouble cleansing a single conditions generally speaking. 25 stacks of burns are very uncommon. It’s not the norm. Higher tier people know how to deal with a single condition. burn dh is a mere gimmick build at that level.

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Higher tier people know how to deal with a single condition. burn dh is a mere gimmick build at that level.

This is how I see it

I’m playing it in low platinum right now. It takes a while to set up a good player but all I need is a 3s window to get them over 20, anything else is icing. That’s a dead thief, DH, ele, or Mesmer. A warrior or necro can survive it but I can still finish them off given more time.

mrauls.6519:

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Higher tier people know how to deal with a single condition. burn dh is a mere gimmick build at that level.

This is how I see it

Basically this. I was in plat 2 for a while (before a series of unfortunate games when I refused to just give it a break until the next day), and condition builds that lacked cover conditions are too easily mitigated if the other player knows what they are doing.