GS/Sw-F build for modern times

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Posted by: hennrick.4623

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This build is for pve content, dungeons and probably fractals too since it is flexible enough. This build is centered around high dps weapon with a lot of support for other members of the party, but lacks a bit of personal defense.
I want to say first that i am at all a huge veteran player of guardian and i am not dictating a perfect build at all, instead if you were kind enough to point me where i fail badly you have my gratitude.

Since there are no templates/apps yet, i will have to improvise:

HONOR 2,3,1
Protective reviver ( shelter on rez + boons on compleated rez )
Empowering might ( aoe might on crit )
Pure of voice ( shouts convert condis )

VALOR 2 3 2
Smiter’ s boon ( smite condition on heal )
Communal defenses ( aoe aegis on block )
Monk focus ( meditation heal, grant fury and have reduced cd )

VIRTUES 1 2 2
Unscathed defender ( +20% damage with aegis on)
Absolute resolution/ Supreme justice ( more F1 burning/F2 cleanses )
Battle presence ( F2 passive to allies)

weapons are sword with focus and greatsword, skills are
HEALING: Lithany of wrath ( or Shelter, see below )
UTILITY 1: Retreat
UTILITY 2: Smite condition
UTILITY 3: Free ( can be Save yourselves or wall of reflection )
ELITE : Feel my wrath

Sigils are the classics Force/Fire/air or wathever you feel encessary for big damages, no prec sigils

Runes for armor are Rune of Rage, with +20% increased fury duration, 15s Fury if hit and +5% damage if under fury.
Consumables to your choice, preferable ferocity.

Just to be clear, zerker set.

With his build, using all skills in rotation allows a fury loop on the user without factoring other players, the rune proc or any kind of consumable. Obviously i do not suggest to spam the heal skill for fury, it’ s just demonstrative.

The build has a blast finisher for setting up fields, better than nothing at least, aegis from various sources included the shout, it grants a bit of might to allies and vigor to you, plus area endurance regeneration thanks to honor minor 3 and grandmaster of Virtues ( helpful since vigor effectiveness is cutted in half) , massive condi conversion and cleanse ( the latter more for a panic button), all the perks of the weapons and still has a slot free for flexibility.
I have left Shelter in parenthesis because for fractals someone might prefer the block time, but remember that the traited meditation heals almost the same without the secondary effect, has less cooldown and grants even more fury, also if you want to use shelter and still use the enhanced meditations you might prefer to pick another second one.
If you don’ t know what to pick for the slot, go save Yourselves for Pure of Voice + condi transfer combo.

There are some traits that can be swapped like
communal defenses <-> strenght in numbers
absolute resolution <-> supreme justice ,
battle presence-> Indomatable Courage,
and smiter’ s boon <-> focus mastery

i tried to be the most flexible possible, so if there is necessity of some kind of resistance or some kind of aggressiveness there is always room for that.

Any toughts?

(edited by hennrick.4623)

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Posted by: Mikali.9651

Mikali.9651

Very similar to my build, tho I don’t run HONOR, I run ZEAL:

ZEAL 2,2,2

Fiery Wrath (increases dmg against burning foe, +7%)
Zealous Blade (gs dmg +5%, cd -20%, heals on hit)
Shattered Aegis ( aegis deals dmg) – and it deals massive dmg! and it proc burn

in VIRTUES, u can go 1,1,1 if u are solo pve, no need for cond removal, and u deal more dmg, more procs from virtue of justice and its aoe burning

:)

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Posted by: hennrick.4623

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I tried to run Zeal too, but allt hose minors that waste power on symbols without having an hammer annoys me ><

I mean, that’ s the reason why i ended doing something like this.

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Posted by: Dheikan.9653

Dheikan.9653

This build is for pve content, dungeons and probably fractals too since it is flexible enough. This build is centered around high dps weapon with a lot of support for other members of the party, but lacks a bit of personal defense.
I want to say first that i am at all a huge veteran player of guardian and i am not dictating a perfect build at all, instead if you were kind enough to point me where i fail badly you have my gratitude.

Since there are no templates/apps yet, i will have to improvise:

HONOR 2,3,1
Protective reviver ( shelter on rez + boons on compleated rez )
Empowering might ( aoe might on crit )
Pure of voice ( shouts convert condis )

VALOR 2 3 2
Smiter’ s boon ( smite condition on heal )
Communal defenses ( aoe aegis on block )
Monk focus ( meditation heal, grant fury and have reduced cd )

VIRTUES 1 2 2
Unscathed defender ( +20% damage with aegis on)
Absolute resolution/ Supreme justice ( more F1 burning/F2 cleanses )
Battle presence ( F2 passive to allies)

weapons are sword with focus and greatsword, skills are
HEALING: Lithany of wrath ( or Shelter, see below )
UTILITY 1: Retreat
UTILITY 2: Smite condition
UTILITY 3: Free ( can be Save yourselves or wall of reflection )
ELITE : Feel my wrath

Sigils are the classics Force/Fire/air or wathever you feel encessary for big damages, no prec sigils

Runes for armor are Rune of Rage, with +20% increased fury duration, 15s Fury if hit and +5% damage if under fury.
Consumables to your choice, preferable ferocity.

Just to be clear, zerker set.

With his build, using all skills in rotation allows a fury loop on the user without factoring other players, the rune proc or any kind of consumable. Obviously i do not suggest to spam the heal skill for fury, it’ s just demonstrative.

The build has a blast finisher for setting up fields, better than nothing at least, aegis from various sources included the shout, it grants a bit of might to allies and vigor to you, plus area endurance regeneration thanks to honor minor 3 and grandmaster of Virtues ( helpful since vigor effectiveness is cutted in half) , massive condi conversion and cleanse ( the latter more for a panic button), all the perks of the weapons and still has a slot free for flexibility.
I have left Shelter in parenthesis because for fractals someone might prefer the block time, but remember that the traited meditation heals almost the same without the secondary effect, has less cooldown and grants even more fury, also if you want to use shelter and still use the enhanced meditations you might prefer to pick another second one.
If you don’ t know what to pick for the slot, go save Yourselves for Pure of Voice + condi transfer combo.

There are some traits that can be swapped like
communal defenses <-> strenght in numbers
absolute resolution <-> supreme justice ,
battle presence-> Indomatable Courage,
and smiter’ s boon <-> focus mastery

i tried to be the most flexible possible, so if there is necessity of some kind of resistance or some kind of aggressiveness there is always room for that.

Any toughts?

Honor is bad, the only good thing there is Pure of Voice. You dont need to stack might in dungeons. That’s wars/eles job. Zeal is way better , like no doubt for dps. Also Rune of Rage is worthless too, you get fury with “Feel my Wrath” and other party members.. get Scholar or Flame Legion.

Get Radiance over valor as well. Radiant fire OP. You dont need condi clean from Valor, thats why you get consecrated ground and even the f2 trait from Virtues

I also have been testing mace and it’s overall better than sword. I heard torch is better than focus as well but i haven’t have the chance to test it yet.

Your build might be “ok” for open PvE but is nowhere close to be good/optimal for dungeons and fractals.

This : http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBrAJkBVg~ is the build im actually using. Get master of consecration / absolute resolution if needed. I think sometihng like this will be meta for guardians unless they nerf something. Also i go full berserker with GS / Mace+Focus (still testing torch)

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

This build is for pve content, dungeons and probably fractals too since it is flexible enough. This build is centered around high dps weapon with a lot of support for other members of the party, but lacks a bit of personal defense.
I want to say first that i am at all a huge veteran player of guardian and i am not dictating a perfect build at all, instead if you were kind enough to point me where i fail badly you have my gratitude.

Since there are no templates/apps yet, i will have to improvise:

HONOR 2,3,1
Protective reviver ( shelter on rez + boons on compleated rez )
Empowering might ( aoe might on crit )
Pure of voice ( shouts convert condis )

VALOR 2 3 2
Smiter’ s boon ( smite condition on heal )
Communal defenses ( aoe aegis on block )
Monk focus ( meditation heal, grant fury and have reduced cd )

VIRTUES 1 2 2
Unscathed defender ( +20% damage with aegis on)
Absolute resolution/ Supreme justice ( more F1 burning/F2 cleanses )
Battle presence ( F2 passive to allies)

weapons are sword with focus and greatsword, skills are
HEALING: Lithany of wrath ( or Shelter, see below )
UTILITY 1: Retreat
UTILITY 2: Smite condition
UTILITY 3: Free ( can be Save yourselves or wall of reflection )
ELITE : Feel my wrath

Sigils are the classics Force/Fire/air or wathever you feel encessary for big damages, no prec sigils

Runes for armor are Rune of Rage, with +20% increased fury duration, 15s Fury if hit and +5% damage if under fury.
Consumables to your choice, preferable ferocity.

Just to be clear, zerker set.

With his build, using all skills in rotation allows a fury loop on the user without factoring other players, the rune proc or any kind of consumable. Obviously i do not suggest to spam the heal skill for fury, it’ s just demonstrative.

The build has a blast finisher for setting up fields, better than nothing at least, aegis from various sources included the shout, it grants a bit of might to allies and vigor to you, plus area endurance regeneration thanks to honor minor 3 and grandmaster of Virtues ( helpful since vigor effectiveness is cutted in half) , massive condi conversion and cleanse ( the latter more for a panic button), all the perks of the weapons and still has a slot free for flexibility.
I have left Shelter in parenthesis because for fractals someone might prefer the block time, but remember that the traited meditation heals almost the same without the secondary effect, has less cooldown and grants even more fury, also if you want to use shelter and still use the enhanced meditations you might prefer to pick another second one.
If you don’ t know what to pick for the slot, go save Yourselves for Pure of Voice + condi transfer combo.

There are some traits that can be swapped like
communal defenses <-> strenght in numbers
absolute resolution <-> supreme justice ,
battle presence-> Indomatable Courage,
and smiter’ s boon <-> focus mastery

i tried to be the most flexible possible, so if there is necessity of some kind of resistance or some kind of aggressiveness there is always room for that.

Any toughts?

Honor is bad, the only good thing there is Pure of Voice. You dont need to stack might in dungeons. That’s wars/eles job. Zeal is way better , like no doubt for dps. Also Rune of Rage is worthless too, you get fury with “Feel my Wrath” and other party members.. get Scholar or Flame Legion.

Get Radiance over valor as well. Radiant fire OP. You dont need condi clean from Valor, thats why you get consecrated ground and even the f2 trait from Virtues

I also have been testing mace and it’s overall better than sword. I heard torch is better than focus as well but i haven’t have the chance to test it yet.

Your build might be “ok” for open PvE but is nowhere close to be good/optimal for dungeons and fractals.

This : http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBrAJkBVg~ is the build im actually using. Get master of consecration / absolute resolution if needed. I think sometihng like this will be meta for guardians unless they nerf something. Also i go full berserker with GS / Mace+Focus (still testing torch)

Torch is amazing with combined with Radiant Fire. Its possible to proc torch 4 twice in a row with it, which leads to very nice damage on crits.

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Posted by: hennrick.4623

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Honor is bad, the only good thing there is Pure of Voice. You dont need to stack might in dungeons. That’s wars/eles job. Zeal is way better , like no doubt for dps. Also Rune of Rage is worthless too, you get fury with “Feel my Wrath” and other party members.. get Scholar or Flame Legion.

Get Radiance over valor as well. Radiant fire OP. You dont need condi clean from Valor, thats why you get consecrated ground and even the f2 trait from Virtues

I also have been testing mace and it’s overall better than sword. I heard torch is better than focus as well but i haven’t have the chance to test it yet.

Your build might be “ok” for open PvE but is nowhere close to be good/optimal for dungeons and fractals.

This : http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBrAJkBVg~ is the build im actually using. Get master of consecration / absolute resolution if needed. I think sometihng like this will be meta for guardians unless they nerf something. Also i go full berserker with GS / Mace+Focus (still testing torch)

Frankly? Is not bad at all, it’ s just way off from what i want to do.

The might proc of Honor is more for upkeep than for stacking frankly, and with the shouts applying aegis, fury and quickness is almost broken. Plus the benefit of condi conversion and boon damage increase. Maybe is less raw damage and i agree, but this is mostly a supporter build for zerker gear.

However Zeal was on the list too – bonus damage on burning and increasec rgs damage looked really good, but honestly now that burning is stacking intensity and you have only a symbol from the gs, those moltiplicators are not consistent enough for me. Unless you run hammer, and in that case is completely fine.

Also, mace? I tried to theorycraft with it, but while i was busy on other stuff a friend of mine tried and almost dropped it immediately… is that really worth?
I mean, if i want symbols i can go with hammer, that gives more of them and gives also blast on light field for reiteration bonus damage, or in what ever field is necessary: you go Gs/hammer, you stay on hammer and swap gs for cooldowns ( and for his symbol too), then hammer again.

About torch i must say is amazing – i just did not pick it up because i had no intrest in full burning uptime and i had already too many condi cleanses.

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Posted by: GonzoNeo.4965

GonzoNeo.4965

Obal form DNT has updated his build for the new core spec traits

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guide-DPS-Guardian-for-PVE/first

The mace is fantastic, the simbol damge is pretty good, and proc the new Radiant Fire to use with torch pretty fast.

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Posted by: hennrick.4623

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Looked at that build and i see how it works well – the mace in this patch is simply an upgraded sword in pve, even if the damage is deceitful to compare eye-to-eye due to attack speed.

So, guess Zeal is the way to go then. Without following further the guide, that i read and i think is very well done ( absolutely more than i could be able to do ) I still want to look for other ways to build.

So, i picked up Zeal in sfavor of Honor – while i really like the ability to cleanse condis and the boons, there are other ways to grant fury and boons, plus the elite shout is already so good baseline.

So, the traits are
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBqAVcA7g~
ZEAL 2,2,2

VALOR 2,3,2

VIRTUES 1,1,3

I was really tempted to run Radiance, but i did not liked the fury on burning – since i had already meditations, nor the crit on 1-hand since it provides sword cooldown reduction that gets wasted ( that was however his strongest selling point ) and because it lacked much meaningful grandmasters, beside burning on block.

Weapons are Gs and Mace-torch, the first that grants more symbols and the second that grants condi cleanse and a whole lot of burning.

Skills are almost as before, even tought you can run less shouts and maybe more meditations.

I also add: for solo pve is better radiance than Valor for the reason that the first radiance 1, fury on burning stack, with runes of rage loops very well – i got 10 1/2 secs – but you have to be careful on proccing it every 10 seconds, even tought that should not really be a problem since with that Specialization tree you get imkproved zealot flame and burning on block! I want to see however meditations in teams, since the fury granted form them are area, while the fury granted grom radiance is only on self.

(edited by hennrick.4623)