Good defense build at 80?

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Posted by: Muppet.1860

Muppet.1860

Currently only level 20, but I have a level 80 engineer for DPS so wanted something that can take hits.

Not too sure where to put my traits points. I am looking at soilders armor when I am 80 and maybe some trinkets that give me vit/toughness.

I know there is no “tanking” in dungeons but is there a role for a defensive guard? Should I even bother with a defense build? I want to be usefull to a group, but also don’t want to die quite as easy, my engineer is pretty much a glass cannon, great for DPS but not so good on staying alive.

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Posted by: Muppet.1860

Muppet.1860

I kind of like this build for the healing aura

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mccz0V0MMaGvomCFvm9MaxxoMabmsa

How well does that work?

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

No. There are no good builds, only mediocre ones.

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Ghaz.9267

Ghaz.9267

Try this: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mccz0V0MMaGvomCFvm0axx0VVoqMRb

use knight’s gear and probably cleric jewelry.

Empowering might->vigor/might procs->altruistic healing procs = survivability + damage

I would use all shouts, so retreat, save yourselves, and hold the line. Go to town with GS, profit.

Oh yeah, and purity trait with signet of resolve removes 2 conditions every 10sec which is niceeeee.

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

No. There are no good builds, only mediocre ones.

Why are you always so negative?
You act like the Guardian is bad at everything, while most of our issues are rather minor.

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Muppet.1860

Muppet.1860

I like that build Ghaz, it looks pretty sweet. I will give it a shot!

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Try this: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mccz0V0MMaGvomCFvm0axx0VVoqMRb
use knight’s gear and probably cleric jewelry.
Empowering might→vigor/might procs→altruistic healing procs = survivability + damage
I would use all shouts, so retreat, save yourselves, and hold the line. Go to town with GS, profit.
Oh yeah, and purity trait with signet of resolve removes 2 conditions every 10sec which is niceeeee.

I see this build getting popular in the metagame. I’m curious to try it myself. Here’s a variation I’m looking at:

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This was actually inspired by something Brutaly talked about, so credit goes to him. I took 15 Radiance and 5 Virtues in order to make greater use of Altruistic Healing. 15 Radiance means Justice recharges after every kill. And every time I activate Justice, I give my allies Might. And giving my allies Might heals me. So basically, it’s a free heal after every kill.

Empowering Might and Vigorous Precision play really well off Altruistic Healing too. Every crit heals you and grants your allies some Might. Brutaly mentioned that earlier and I’ve been mulling over it for a couple days.

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Posted by: Kindread.9481

Kindread.9481

Ghaz has a great build there, I may take 5 points out of Radiance and put them into Virtues. This will give you some extra boons to throw around for extra healing from Altruistic Healing.

Another very defensive build I have been playing around with is the Monk’s Focus build. Stack up Meditations, and specialize in symbols through the Honor line.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#MVcczV0MmrnTmMavGm0VxxVzabcak

I have a Mace and Focus in that link, but you can quite easily use a Greatsword if that is your thing. You will loose the extra Regeneration boon if you do this though. The important thing to remember is that whatever weapon you use, it will need to have a short cooldown symbol. With enough Healing gear you will get about 700 health/sec and heal for about 2.5k per Meditation. With the 20% reduction to meditation skill cooldowns you are looking at about 6 Meditations per minutes, that is about 15,000 health per minute from Meditations, and about 27,000 health per minute from your Symbol, Regeneration, and Virtue of Resolve for a grand total of 42,000 healing per minute. This assumes you can maintain your Symbol and Regeneration healing at 50% upkeep which is very possible. You can also increase the healing if you take Renewed Focus, pop Virtue of Resolve for the instant heal, then pop your elite to refresh the cooldown of the Virtue.

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Posted by: Kindread.9481

Kindread.9481

Forgot to mention in my last post about the trait Selfless Daring. This will add a ~700 point heal to you, and nearby allies each time you dodge roll, and with the trait Vigorous Precision which gives you the Vigor boon each time you crit, you can dodge roll quite often, even with a low crit chance.

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Posted by: Fredlicious.7523

Fredlicious.7523

The build that Eveningstar posted is exactly what I use, right down to the major traits. The cool thing about this allocation (0/15/30/20/5) is that it can be converted from a group-oriented Shout build into a solo-oriented Meditation build just by changing majors and utilities:

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#Mcc9VmrnRmmrnRm0fxGVMzobcs

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Fredlicious, how’s that build working out for you? What do you use it for primarily? I ran a Right-Hand Strength + Empowering Might damage/support build that focused on one handed weapons for a while. It was pretty solid, but I’m looking to change things up.

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Posted by: Fredlicious.7523

Fredlicious.7523

I like it a lot; I think it is more defensively oriented than the 30 Radiance build, since you lose the option of taking Altruistic Healing. Also, I prefer the skill sets on our 2H weapons for most situations, but if you’re a big fan of the 1H Sword, I think the Right-Hand Strength/Empowering Might synergy is pretty fantastic.

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Yeah, I was a huge fan of Sword, Mace and Scepter in general PVE, so Right Hand Strength + Empowering Might let me play a versatile Guardian with a very high Crit rate, and about 2-3 stacks of perma-Might.

The downside was that I’m stuck using 1H weapons and don’t have Altruistic Healing. I’m going to give this 0/15/30/20/5 build a shot. We really need to start coming up with concise shorthand instead of build notation.

Maybe Altruistic Empowerment? Altruistic Hammer?

I miss PvXwiki now. :P

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Just for fun, I’m actually trying the Altruistic Healing build with Prayer to Lyssa.

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Posted by: Tesq.1432

Tesq.1432

ahahah i have the best tanky build for guardian but i never share it :P
Just for tell you i go with permant 33% damage reduction