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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

Can’t make a build that makes taking a greatsword useful. I keep running into a Hammer build. Taking greatsword traits seems like you’re just throwing away trait points. Hammer is the worst weapon ever made so basically it is time to switch main classes after almost 3 years because anet has no respect for the playerbase.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

they want u to trait for hammer and put a sigil of intelligence on there for #2 attack

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

I mean hammer is cool if you enjoy playing in slow motion. But if you like playing in slow motion you might prefer a traditional MMO.

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Posted by: Drayos.8759

Drayos.8759

Wait did the patch notes that were nerfing us get released already then? sorry only just woken up xD haha.

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

Pyriel.4370

I play GS in PvE and PvP and it works really well for GS. Just use the Medi variant. The only reason hammer is meta over GS is because Tage uses it. I don’t like it’s feel, not at all, GS just feels a lot more fluid and well rounded and a little more aggressive.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Guardian_-_Meditation_DPS_Variant

Try that.

I use traveller runes too cus I like to move at more than a snails pace and like the extra boon duration with a small cele-like stat boost. I won’t swap those out till guards at least get a 25% trait movement buff.

Hammer is just too predictable now.

“Oh he switched with a focus shield on, incoming burst with sigil of intelligence, dodge/blind/block in 3, 2, 1.”

The new specialisation changes mean the hammer trait is moved to the Virtues line….next to the trait that makes virtue of resolve remove 3 conditions AoE on activation.

With all that you have to take the whole line too, you won’t be able to go 1 into a line, you have to go full in, but you will be able to go in 3 full lines. Effectively getting 2 more trait points.

What will come from this? I’d say a bunkier meditation guard with greatsword.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/June-23-Specialization-Changes/first Here you go, enjoy the joy that is Guardian getting destroyed. It doesn’t even resemble the class it has been for the past 3 years.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

I play greatsword in PvE and PvP and it works really well for GS. Just use the Medi variant. The only reason hammer is meta over GS is because Tage uses it.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Guardian_-_Meditation_DPS_Variant

Try that.

That is a PvP build? I’m talking about PvE. Also as far as I am concerned GS was always superior in PvP over the useless hammer build. We’re talking specifically about the new trait system coming out next week. The new traits are breaking this class.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Honestly, I’ve always felt that GS is lackluster in PvP. The new immobilize on VoJ should make it more worthwhile, but other than that it’s just too easy to avoid. And the changes we were going to get suddenly being butchered doesn’t really help us either.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

Hammer is KITTEN, they left glacial heart but that won’t do dmg anymore….so what’s the point of that, slow was more useful.
Overall we got nerfed hard because they want us to use (easy dodgable) symbols. Our dev is simply bad. We need a new one.

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Posted by: marcel.3019

marcel.3019

Just keep calm and think about GS Zeal+Honor. PVE thats very good , bc NPCs dont go out of symbols often, and they do evrything we need.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

What is the percent of duration increase on symbol length? GS only has a 4 second duration on a 20 second cooldown. So it will hardly be useful over hammer for symbol purposes which has a pretty much 100% symbol upkeep.

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Posted by: marcel.3019

marcel.3019

Okay, than use both. maybe that will work. im still thinking that traid is disinged for hambow dragon hunter guards

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

Dergen Hernter was already useless to begin with. They don’t need to break traits to make people use it because nobody outside of WvW was ever going to use it anyway. All this is doing is pushing me to play my warrior more.

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

Pyriel.4370

In PvE the guard will be fine. The changes are not devastating as you would put it. We will still put out impressive damage, and we will still survive longer than others in the thick of the fight.

Like Marcel said, we have the symbols dps boost, the aegis dps boost, boon dps boost and fiery wrath dps boost and the GS trait is still where it always has been and has been buffed with the 20% recharge reduction.

Again, with the specialisation changes we will also have 3 full lines to play with, though we cannot go part way into trait lines anymore after the change. So the meta will change somewhat but the greatsword is still in the main dps line with no real other contenders for that trait. It is far from ruined or dead.

It is a little annoying that there are changes, some good some bad, but that has apparently RUINED this class etc etc etc. The world still turns and guards will still be effective.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

Dinks.2478

Effective with a hammer, if you think GS will be anything but an item slot I don’t know what traits you’re looking at.

edit: I do hope you’re right though.

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Posted by: Vizardlorde.8243

Vizardlorde.8243

I actually think that we are going to get nerfed, that sexy shout elite just seems too good to be true in PVE.We are basically 3x better than mesmers at providing quickness and we finally gain access to fury. It would also work wonders with gimicky builds that use runes that proc on elite.