Guild Wars 2

I’ve been out of the game for the last 9 months or so, however I’ve been closely following the HoT information and development of so called elite professions.

It comes as no surprise, but, I’m heavily disheartened by the Dragonhunter – to me personally, it looks uninspiring and boring, there’s nothing exciting about it and the whole trap mechanic seems gimmicky at best. And I honestly doubt simply bumping up the damage or reducing CDs on skills will make the class any more interesting.

And why would I care? Guardian was my primary profession when I was playing the game (1400 hours, Guardian 95% of the play time). I still haven’t ordered the game, and I really dislike the idea of changing my primary profession – abandoning my Guardian I worked so kitten, in order to enjoy playing the game again.

Is Arena Net doing anything about the Dragonhunter? Have they mentioned anything?

Where does Guarian fit into the new meta after HoT launches seeing the other revealed professions can heal and tank better than Guardian ever did, and Dragonhunter, juding from what I’ve seen so far – look like Rifle Warrior with less damage,

We are in a good spot, worst elite spec. So yea, take a seat at last row and enjoy the ride.

Your attitude determines everything. If you think it has potential, you’ll be able to make use of it and be happy. If not, you’ll continue to look at the negative aspects. Warrior used to be considered useless in pvp. After a few months, even without balance changes, some people decided to figure out what they could do with warrior. All of a sudden, it started tearing through pvp, culminating in the venerable Hambow build we remember so fondly. Every class and every elite spec has that potential, especially with how HoT is going to change the scene. What used to be considered useless will now be desirable.

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Ragnarox.9601:

We are in a good spot, worst elite spec.

Don’t tell that the to the elementalists; they got Tempest.

I’m just waiting for someone smart to make a Dragonhunter build so I can watch all you complainers just change your minds.
There’s no doubt that the traits could’ve been better and some skills could be better and it is a big departure from what we currently understand about the Guardian (which I think is a good thing) but it’s not so bad that you can’t make any builds with it or so bad that it won’t be functional or be a boon to certain builds or certain styles of play.

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Exedore.6320:

Ragnarox.9601:

We are in a good spot, worst elite spec.

Don’t tell that the to the elementalists; they got Tempest.

Tempest > Dragonhunter.

Failing that, Ele is already at the top of the meta in every game mode anyway, whereas Guardian is being pushed out pretty much everywhere except for WvW zergs.

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Why don’t you just admit that you are kitten because druids could replace support guards depending on how the game changes instead of making a fool of yourself in every post? Yeah, they are only healing plants that cant do anything else. .. You know, like spotter frost spirit team fury team swiftness team might glyph of empowerment etc etc…

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Why don’t you just admit that you are kitten because druids could replace support guards depending on how the game changes instead of making a fool of yourself in every post? Yeah, they are only healing plants that cant do anything else. .. You know, like spotter frost spirit team fury team swiftness team might glyph of empowerment etc etc…

OK, wait a minute here. He should stop making a fool of himself by admitting he’s wrong, based on YOUR suspicions that Guardians are being replaced by Druids in game content that we haven’t even begun to experience yet (HoT) or game content we have massive amounts of experience with where healbots aren’t necessary? That’s rich.

He’s right … Druids aren’t Guardian playstyle, REGARDLESS of whatever content you want to place them in. Vanilla GW2 isn’t changing and Guardians don’t have ‘Druid-like’ playstyle in that content. In fact, Druids are going to be completely useless in vanilla. If you think Guardians are replaced by this healbot elite, you got tunnel vision.

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Why don’t you just admit that you are kitten because druids could replace support guards depending on how the game changes instead of making a fool of yourself in every post? Yeah, they are only healing plants that cant do anything else. .. You know, like spotter frost spirit team fury team swiftness team might glyph of empowerment etc etc…

OK, wait a minute here. He should stop making a fool of himself by admitting he’s wrong, based on YOUR suspicions that Guardians are being replaced by Druids in game content that we haven’t even begun to experience yet (HoT) or game content we have massive amounts of experience with where healbots aren’t necessary? That’s rich.

He’s right … Druids aren’t Guardian playstyle, REGARDLESS of whatever content you want to place them in. Vanilla GW2 isn’t changing and Guardians don’t have ‘Druid-like’ playstyle in that content. In fact, Druids are going to be completely useless in vanilla. If you think Guardians are replaced by this healbot elite, you got tunnel vision.

First of all HoT =/= vanilla GW2…

They said various times they are changing the braindead zerker meta.

I’m not saying guards will not be needed. I’m not bashing the class.

On the contrary, this dude is just going from thread to thread, jibber jabbering about how druids can only heal and do nothing else. Which of course is stupidly wrong. When given facts about the oposite (survival skills such as Signet of Stone, or offensive skills such as spotter and frost spirit), he goes on a rant about how the guardian is better or how the guardian can be compared to the druid.

He is just an angry kid that is annoyed by the fact that another class got viable support capabilities as well, and trying to dumb a whole elite spec just because of that.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

On the contrary, this dude is just going from thread to thread, jibber jabbering about how druids can only heal and do nothing else.

Maybe he is or isn’t, I don’t know, but I do know that’s not the point he’s trying to make with the post in THIS thread.

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

On the contrary, this dude is just going from thread to thread, jibber jabbering about how druids can only heal and do nothing else.

Maybe he is or isn’t, I don’t know, but I do know that’s not the point he’s trying to make with the post in THIS thread.

He’s trying to make a point? Odd.

Cause all I saw from him today were posts filled with insecurities about what druids can’t do, and what guards can.

Scroll up a bit. He refers to druids as “healing plants who occasionally offer a bit of CC”
followed by “Guards can protect you via Blinds and Stun brerakers”. Yeah, like the druid class has no blinds or stun breakers…. They were just announced for **** sake… 1 day old! How can you miss it?

But the best was “while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.” Yeah, because only guard can do that, and stuff like Spotter&Frost spirit&Glyph of Empowerment are skills druids do not have access to……

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

You’re right; I don’t have a crystal ball but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change and Guardians have a very established position there. How likely do I think Guardian is going to be replaced in GW2 vanilla? Not at all. I just don’t see anything in the new elites that makes me believe it’s going to happen. In fact, most of the elites have a strong PVP flavour to them … so I think it will have almost no chance of replacing Guardians at all in HoT either. I’m also pretty confident that Anet isn’t dumb enough to sink their own game by doing that either. I’m also pretty sure players won’t just abandon their characters either, even if they aren’t ‘optimal’.

There are so many factors that I would say without a doubt, Guardians are not going to become irrelevant because of ONE elite spec, no more so than they are now by any of the other 7 classes that already exist. The idea they would be is ludicrous.

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change

Did your mind turn to salad from the constant zerker meta? It must have.

In case you live under a rock for the past months, we have a new expansion coming within less than a month. GW2 Vanilla IS going to change. They said various times that the new mechanics will change the whole game and all of its content.

Let us actually play the game first, then you can cry about which spec is useless and which is not.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change

Let us actually play the game first, then you can cry about which spec is useless and which is not.

It’s ridiculous to think that a whole class is going to be replaced by another because of an elite spec, regardless of what parts of the game are changing or not. I don’t need to play anything to know that because it’s common sense.

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change

Let us actually play the game first, then you can cry about which spec is useless and which is not.

It’s ridiculous to think that a whole class is going to be replaced by another because of an elite spec, regardless of what parts of the game are changing or not. I don’t need to play anything to know that because it’s common sense.

You havn’t been in many MMOs have you?

I have played dozens so yeah… Expansions can alter everything… A class can go straight from the top, right to the trash bin and vise versa.

I’m not saying guard or druid will be useless or the most desired class in HoT. I don’t know that. You, or anyone else does not know that either, so keep your crying and magic guesses for yourself.

Not to mention angry nerd threads like Saiyan’s about Druids. Which is just a thread filled with insecurities and false arguments about what the ranger/druid can or can’t do and how guardian is better.

I’ve played plenty; enough to recognize the differences between ‘them’ and GW2 and how those differences will not result in Druid replacing Guardians in any element of this game for the reasons I’ve already outlined. They are two completely different styles of team support. It’s even less likely where no particular class plays a specific role in teaming; GW2 doesn’t have roles for classes to be replaced from to begin with.