Guardian elite spec in this week's stream.
..A med guardian with a bow…just what we needed…
..A med guardian with a bow…just what we needed…
Keep in mind that the elite spec will only leave you with two other specs to choose from, and also that it will feature an entirely new skillset. It could very well be incorporated into an entirely different build instead.
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Yay we r getting wings just what I wanted to jump off sky hammer when I cant escape.
Why i think many are expecting a 1200 range pew pew weapon with lots of condis with the adition of the bow?
or am i wrong???
btw guardian with wings? = archangel??? lulz
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Since we getting a long bow, are they going to add long Bow to the weaponsmith list for crafting?
Since we getting a long bow, are they going to add long Bow to the weaponsmith list for crafting?
Nope go make a huntsman
Since we getting a long bow, are they going to add long Bow to the weaponsmith list for crafting?
Why would they do that? You know you craft longbows with huntsman, right?
is it confirmed has longbow and not a shortbow? or these are speculations over the bow type?
I imagine bow being the Smiting Prayers equivalent.
Does anyone remmember the beam of god? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ray_of_Judgment
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yeah I know, but I have weapon and armor smith to 500 which makes sense for a guardian, now huntsmith for a guardian is kind of odd… Iwill have to spend more money on other toon just to get an ascended bow for a guardian…
yeah I know, but I have weapon and armor smith to 500 which makes sense for a guardian, now huntsmith for a guardian is kind of odd… Iwill have to spend more money on other toon just to get an ascended bow for a guardian…
Staves, tridents, scepters and foci are made by artificer, every other profession has to mix and match crafts to make all their weapons.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
Nope, a decent ranged option is a necessity staff already fills the support role pretty well.
is it confirmed has longbow and not a shortbow? or these are speculations over the bow type?
I imagine bow being the Smiting Prayers equivalent.
Does anyone remmember the beam of god? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ray_of_Judgment
JESUS’ BEAM
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arcane_Echo
Longbow ? Someone said Hambow ?
Could be a short bow guys. That skin is shared by a shortbow and a longbow so just remember it could be either. Also warrior has longbow, and Anet tends to like spreading weapons types among armor classes so it is most likely a shortbow IMO.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
Am I the only one thinking it will be neither?
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Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
The support capability is what separates Guardians from warriors.
The expansions should emphasize what makes the classes different instead of making them all homogenous and clones of each other
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
The support capability is what separates Guardians from warriors.
The expansions should emphasize what makes the classes different instead of making them all homogenous and clones of each other
No, what separates guardians from warriors is the fact that guardians use light and fire magic, whereas warriors rely on physical prowess. Balance needs to be placed in front of theme, and right now guardian already HAS enough support elements in a game that isn’t even very support-friendly in the first place.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
The support capability is what separates Guardians from warriors.
The expansions should emphasize what makes the classes different instead of making them all homogenous and clones of each other
u need to review spvp warrior. its a support build. while not optimal, most classes can adept to all the roles in various ways. you need to think outside the bun
Actually I’m not too surprised Guards would get Long Bow since one of the spirit weapons is a bow. Zodiac, calling it now and the specialisation revolves around condi clensing.
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Why i think many are expecting a 1200 range pew pew weapon with lots of condis with the adition of the bow?
or am i wrong???
btw guardian with wings? = archangel??? lulz
I’m betting it’s going to be called Paragon
stances incoming
Maybe. GW1 Paragon’s thing was Chants (buffs that triggered on a specific skill type used) Echos (Not!Enchantment Enchantments that refreshed/proced when shouts and chants ended) and Shouts. No Stances though, but then again GW1 Mesmer had no wells either, and Guardians already have Shouts, so I don’t think they’ll double up on that, so sure, why not stances?
Why i think many are expecting a 1200 range pew pew weapon with lots of condis with the adition of the bow?
or am i wrong???
btw guardian with wings? = archangel??? lulz
I’m betting it’s going to be called Paragon
stances incoming
Maybe. GW1 Paragon’s thing was Chants (buffs that triggered on a specific skill type used) Echos (Not!Enchantment Enchantments that refreshed/proced when shouts and chants ended) and Shouts. No Stances though, but then again GW1 Mesmer had no wells either, and Guardians already have Shouts, so I don’t think they’ll double up on that, so sure, why not stances?
that’s only reason i’m going w/ stances. we have shouts and i think they are trying to add type of skills we don’t have. i don’t think they’d create new type (chants/echos) so stances seems to make sense.
Actually I’m not too surprised Guards would get Long Bow since one of the spirit weapons is a bow. Zodiac, calling it now and the specialisation revolves around condi clensing.
problem is that there are two bow types in the game. we dont know which is in the OP pic..
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
The support capability is what separates Guardians from warriors.
The expansions should emphasize what makes the classes different instead of making them all homogenous and clones of each other
nope what makes guardians guardians and not warrior is lack of stances, lack of adrenaline lack of burst, lack of physical and having symbols, virtues, meditations and consecrations :p.
is it confirmed has longbow and not a shortbow? or these are speculations over the bow type?
I imagine bow being the Smiting Prayers equivalent.
Does anyone remmember the beam of god? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ray_of_Judgment
Sadly it went from a giant beam of death to a bouncing ball of fuzziness. I miss being able to call down holy fury.
Well, you also need Huntsman to craft torches…
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
Nope, a decent ranged option is a necessity staff already fills the support role pretty well.
This ^.
Guardian already has support flying out their butt.
Spec’s are supposed to add something new & what the class desperately lacks is
1: CC
2: Ranged damage potential
3: Conditions
If they want to toss some ranged support on fine, but it really needs those 3 things
Guardian already has support flying out their butt.
Spec’s are supposed to add something new & what the class desperately lacks is
1: CC
2: Ranged damage potential
3: ConditionsIf they want to toss some ranged support on fine, but it really needs those 3 things
If their support is so great, why is their meta build generally selfish? :p
I don’t believe guardians need any of those things (especially not conditions), but the ability to do things at a range sounds very fun. As such, I hope it allows one to support from a long range as well as deal damage from a long range.
Personally, I also hope it lets me further give up selfish defense for more support. I couldn’t care less about being tanky.
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+1 to CC, Ranged Dmg and Mobility.
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Guardian already has support flying out their butt.
Spec’s are supposed to add something new & what the class desperately lacks is
1: CC
2: Ranged damage potential
3: ConditionsIf they want to toss some ranged support on fine, but it really needs those 3 things
If their support is so great, why is their meta build generally selfish? :p
I don’t believe guardians need any of those things (especially not conditions), but the ability to do things at a range sounds very fun. As such, I hope it allows one to support from a long range as well as deal damage from a long range.
Personally, I also hope it lets me further give up selfish defense for more support. I couldn’t care less about being tanky.
their meta while selfish can provide party might, burning, vulnerability, heals, aegis and fury. And the bunker guard while strong its boring as hell cause unless you are super skilled you cant kill crap unlike ele bunkers.
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Guardian already has support flying out their butt.
Spec’s are supposed to add something new & what the class desperately lacks is
1: CC
2: Ranged damage potential
3: ConditionsIf they want to toss some ranged support on fine, but it really needs those 3 things
If their support is so great, why is their meta build generally selfish? :p
I don’t believe guardians need any of those things (especially not conditions), but the ability to do things at a range sounds very fun. As such, I hope it allows one to support from a long range as well as deal damage from a long range.
Personally, I also hope it lets me further give up selfish defense for more support. I couldn’t care less about being tanky.
The current meta guardian build is a selfish DPS build because the bunker/support builds have been consistently nerfed, both directly and indirectly, since launch for being “too powerful”.
Guardian already has support flying out their butt.
Spec’s are supposed to add something new & what the class desperately lacks is
1: CC
2: Ranged damage potential
3: ConditionsIf they want to toss some ranged support on fine, but it really needs those 3 things
If their support is so great, why is their meta build generally selfish? :p
I don’t believe guardians need any of those things (especially not conditions), but the ability to do things at a range sounds very fun. As such, I hope it allows one to support from a long range as well as deal damage from a long range.
Personally, I also hope it lets me further give up selfish defense for more support. I couldn’t care less about being tanky.
The meta is a selfish Med build because in this game offense > defense.
The only real exception to this is engineers, warriors & elementalists because they can pump out allot of CC, mobility & conditions while providing support. (guardians cannot)
So if the new elite spec provides ranged damage potential, CC & conditions then it could be entirely possible to mix it with the support or bunker tree’s to end up with some very intrusting builds.
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yeah I know, but I have weapon and armor smith to 500 which makes sense for a guardian, now huntsmith for a guardian is kind of odd… Iwill have to spend more money on other toon just to get an ascended bow for a guardian…
Um, you know your scepter and staff are artificer weapons too right? The crafting skills are not aligned to any particular professions.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
The support capability is what separates Guardians from warriors.
The expansions should emphasize what makes the classes different instead of making them all homogenous and clones of each otherNo, what separates guardians from warriors is the fact that guardians use light and fire magic, whereas warriors rely on physical prowess. Balance needs to be placed in front of theme, and right now guardian already HAS enough support elements in a game that isn’t even very support-friendly in the first place.
This is incredibly false, look at how jacked this Guardian is.
Hambow 2.0!!! Get rekt.
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Long as this is viable with Medis I don’t have a problem with it, hopefully longbow can provide an alternative to the slower scepter/focus set.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
I hope for the same. I’d really rather it not be some warrior/ranger wannabe bow.
Fortunately, assuming the bow is reminiscent of the leaked one, it’ll have a stance mechanic that switches between dps/offensive-support and healing/defensive-support.
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Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
Am I the only one thinking it will be neither?
It will most likely be both where you can change stances through F4 so you can either support or damage based on your stance.
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
Am I the only one thinking it will be neither?
It will most likely be both where you can change stances through F4 so you can either support or damage based on your stance.
potentially lending credence to the concept of stances as the utilities incoming
+1 to CC, Ranged Dmg and MOBILITY.
WHAT TIME AND WHAT DAY
Mesmer is unfun to play against and does everything better than thieves.
Hoping those two get gutted with nerfs
Hopefully the Guardian bow will be party support and not DPS. Imagine long range AoE healing arrows. Or blinding arrows. Or arrows that lay down protective fields. That would be much cooler than just rehashing the thief, ranger, and warrior bow skills.
No thank you. I’d much rather have a DPS-oriented weapon. Guardians already sacrifice way too much in the name of “support”.
Am I the only one thinking it will be neither?
It will most likely be both where you can change stances through F4 so you can either support or damage based on your stance.
potentially lending credence to the concept of stances as the utilities incoming
That’d be my guess after seeing what they did with Mesmers.
I doubt well get stances that will affect all existing weapon skill like some people are implying, the stance leaked in the supposed guardian skills only affected bow. Adding new spell effects to 40 weapon skills on a class thats “in a good spot” seems like a lot of work when they have classes that need major reworks and are not getting them (necro).
If the leak is to be followed, the stance change will almost certainly just be on skill #5 of the longbow (as Vizard said).
If the leak is to be followed, the stance change will almost certainly just be on skill #5 of the longbow (as Vizard said).
Which is kind of sad.
Imagine if each virtue had a stance effect, it could be great.
Something like
Virtue of Justice: Causes every 5th attack to apply burning for 3 seconds (always active)
Can be chosen to be your active virtue to increase damage by X%.
When this virtue becomes active it grants all allies 4 seconds of burning on their next attack.
Virtue of Resolve: Regain health every second (always active)
Can be chosen to be your active virtue, while active causes all attacks to heal nearby allies.
When this virtue becomes active it heals all nearby allies for X.
Virtue of Courage: Grants AEGIS every 40 seconds (always active)
Can be chosen to be your active virtue, when active it reduces all damage taken by X%.
When this virtue becomes active it grants all nearby allies AEGIS.
With something like this I could see the guardian being able to specialize to do allot more things but in a balanced way because you won’t be able to do everything at once.
It will be shortbow and the nr1 will be copy paste from ranger
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