Guild Wars 2

Although I have decided to use a guardian as my first character, I have noticed that it is nearly impossible to kill under certain conditions. Using certain combinations of weapons, the character can become almost impossible to kill during combat with any enemy, including in pvp, due to their strong shield, imobilizing, and elite skills.

The same is true of every profession. Its not OP, its just that the player is just smart enough to play to the strengths of the class.

It’s all about how comfortable you are playing a given class. My friend plays a Warrior and feels the same way about his class. His wifes plays a Necromancer and can just steamroll through content. I play a Guardian and completly agree with you, when you pair up your skills correctly, and use your defenses at the right time you are practically unkillable.

I agree, in that if I play poorly I’ll be defeated.

I had thought the Guardian was cool and generally good when starting out, but once I figured out how the Field/Finisher system works (inter-profession and intra-profession combos), you’re right. I can be almost unkillable if I time my virtues, blinds, retaliations, and evades just right. I can solo Veteran NPCs, but only if I’m really on my game (and then, win by the skin of my teeth in some cases).

Similarly I’ve heard complaints of Engineer survivability at low levels, but my younger brother (who loves the Engineer) has been aggressively kicking tail. He plays smart, and is rewarded with very few deaths.

Guardian OP? sry but i totally dont agree! did u guys do any pvp at all?
true he can survive a lot with right setup and treats, but then hes useless for the grp coz he cant kill a fly and his support skills are limited, very limited! he can give few secs of retaliation, regen and protection but thats it! and with stability removal from elites , its sokitteneasy to interrupt. he might be a pointdefender but thats far from being over powered.
pve cant be such a difference, so calling guardian OP is wrong (my opinion)

He’s a warrior with less mobility, damage, and passive defense, for more team support, utility/control, and active defense. I don’t see the problem…

Guardian is probably the most powerful class in sPvP. ESPECIALLY 1v1. Honestly I wouldn’t say overpowered, but it’s close. The real power is synergizing your trait and utility skills. Bubbles may seem good, but with long cooldowns and easily bypassed they’re not as good as you think. Our best skills are elsewhere.

BlueStoat.9157:

The same is true of every profession. Its not OP, its just that the player is just smart enough to play to the strengths of the class.

This.

In wvw I’ve probably run across people of every class whom we / I had a hard if not impossible time killing.

If I want to play my guardian like a tank and buff him that way for longer survivability, and if I’m mobile and use my skills correctly, yes I will live longer but my damage output will suffer. I could go for damage instead but would be weaker in defense.

Same is true for every single class.

Any profession can be very tanky (even a lot more than guardian) if specced defensively.
The problem is everyone specs glass cannon.

Eles can get 14s invulnerability +4s blocking, yet they all say they are squishy.

It’s a matter of build, not class. This is Build Wars 2, remember it.

the reason guardians seem op is because Defense scales VERY fast. and most people in WvWvW are running their pve builds. From what i can tell from pve builds, everyone is just running Berzerker stuff. If thats the case hitting a guardian is gonna be like running into a wall. Guardain will take the burst, heal up and then burst you. the guardian wont be able to burst nearly as hard as you but if you didnt build any defenses hes gonna seem unstopable.

Red Falcon.8257:

It’s a matter of build, not class. This is Build Wars 2, remember it.

Build Wars 2 – perfect. One of the beauties of the game.

garm.6275:

Guardian OP? sry but i totally dont agree! did u guys do any pvp at all?
true he can survive a lot with right setup and treats, but then hes useless for the grp coz he cant kill a fly and his support skills are limited, very limited! he can give few secs of retaliation, regen and protection but thats it! and with stability removal from elites , its sokitteneasy to interrupt. he might be a pointdefender but thats far from being over powered.
pve cant be such a difference, so calling guardian OP is wrong (my opinion)

i do agree, i specced for max survivability couldnt kill ANYTHING but with the offensive spec im rolling i almost always win 1v1 and I am usually always the top player. Not trying to brag or anything if played right guardians can be very powerful.

The Guardian is definitely NOT overpowered. They already had way too much nerfing in the last beta. If they nerf it again, I will quit the class.

Its posts like this that were the reason for the nerfing. Its a cheap way for other classes to get another class nerfed… pretending they are overpowered.

so.. anyone wanna share these undefeatable builds?

Wow, in every single profession sub-forum I’ve seen the same old “THIS IS OP” thread over and over. Everything has a strength and everything has a weakness. If a guardian is super tanky/hard to kill, you need to communicate with your team to be able to focus on nobody but him. Bubbles hitting you? Use stability. He’s constantly healing? Interrupt the dang skills. There’s already been a “fix” to the support elite skill, so that should be enough imo.

Ryswick.8752:

so.. anyone wanna share these undefeatable builds?

id love to if u can find me a up to date skill calculator

Just clearing something up. Getting a top player doesn’t actually mean you’re the TOP player. It just means you got the most points out of anyone in one of the many categories of points.
If I revived 1 person and nobody else revived anyone (it’s happened…) all of a sudden I’m the top player, but not for the whole game, just the top player in teammate revives.
Someone else might get top player for points captured or kills etc.
But to whoever was mentioned this before, I get what you meant.

Silver.8023:

Just clearing something up. Getting a top player doesn’t actually mean you’re the TOP player. It just means you got the most points out of anyone in one of the many categories of points.
If I revived 1 person and nobody else revived anyone (it’s happened…) all of a sudden I’m the top player, but not for the whole game, just the top player in teammate revives.
Someone else might get top player for points captured or kills etc.
But to whoever was mentioned this before, I get what you meant.

Yes, what i meant by top player was the most amount of points earned just clearing that up