Guardian on Raids?

Guardian on Raids?

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Posted by: Azoqu.8917

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As someone who has played Guardian main for over 3 years the short answer is yes, Guardians are that bad. The long answer is that Guardians have never honestly been good damage and if you only play Guardian you wouldn’t have noticed it. Guardians have amazing burst but then they have terrible sustain so that hurts them over the entire fight especially since all the fights are sustain DPS fights. If there was a fight where you could only attack the boss for 10s every minute then Guardians might have a spot for damage but there isn’t one.

For myself I pugged VG on my Guardian as a tank and when my group killed it we decided to form our own guild for raid purposes. We pushed to Gorseval and noticed very quickly that Guardians were horrible for that fight so 2 of use rerolled to alts we had. I went Elementalist which does way more damage and tanks better too while the other Guardian went to Revenant which does insane damage for the amount of work it has to do. The change to using stuff besides Guardians pushed our damage up high enough in order to succeed on that fight. My group is now on Sabitha and have her down to 25% health and I will say I really do not see the purpose of a Guardian for that fight.

The main problems with the Guardian are the fact that everything it does it outclassed by another class. For half of its utilities the cooldowns are way to long because they are balanced around the fact that Guild Wars 2 was not made with main healers in mind but now we have Druids and the Guardian did not get an update in their supportive utilities. Sanctuary on a 120s cooldown? What is that kitten? Hollowed ground lasting for 10 seconds on an 80 second cooldown while the Revenant has the road that lasts for 6 seconds on a 12 second cooldown is one of the largest jokes I have ever seen. Though this is totally expected because all game companies hate on the “bubble/shield/protection” character and over-nerf them (case in point of how many unblockable attacks there are now compared to when the game came out and how many projectiles can’t be reflected).

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Posted by: Templar.3418

Templar.3418

I felt like an important part of a team tanking the Vale Guardian with my okay toughness and adequate damage. Once I hit Goreseval though I pretty much sat there wondering what the hell I was even doing there.

Tanking whilst pumping out mediocre damage is okay but another class can do it better than you in LIGHT/MEDIUM armor, which annoys me.

Why the hell am I playing a heavy class again?

We all know other classes can beat our dps so why are we even trying when it comes to a fight such as Goreseval? It almost seems selfish does it not? I’m in this raid to get ahead but I’m slowing everyone down!

Jack of trades but a master of none.

You know if the raid bosses hit harder then maybe we won’t be seeing light/medium tanks. Bosses need a damage buff.

I only play Guardian and I won’t play another class. Ugh all these things just demotivate me to play.

Yep that turned to kittening quickly.

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Posted by: phor.7952

phor.7952

It’s just a matter of perception.

When people think about DPS in raids, they too easily ignore the fact that 1 healer can’t keep 10 people above 90% for scholar runes very easily.
I feel like they concentrate on personal dps or might stacking too much and group sustain too little… And it actually results in LOWER total group dps.

DNT doing vale guard with a DH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q513JRBETPU

World first Sabetha kill used a DH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfLRhR5XTZc

Guardian can fulfill several roles just fine in the raid (tank, dps, condi).