Guild Wars 2

Hi.
I would like to complain that some classes like the guardian are OP in pvp kitten if i can kill them with anything really, other than X vs 1). Also some classes are too kittened to play in pvp/spvp like elementalists/engineers. Can we get some sort of balance please ?:)
thank you.

I know you’re trying to troll but the majority of the threads on these forums are actually like this.

The best ones though are the warriors who actually think they’re an underpowered class and that thieves are overpowered.

To be fair, most guardians think they’re underpowered too.

Guardians are strong, that’s true. But I wouldn’t call them overpowered. What profession do you play, and why do you have troubles defeating the Guardian?

This is just waste of a post, like my reply..

Take guardians out of the Bunker build and you have a normal good class. Put them in a bunker build with healing meditations and god save us all. Not as bad as the mesmer but still way too high in the healing department.

Yay, now you only need to mention some random ability and it sure will get nerfed the next patch <.<

I propose like this:
count the number of kills each class generates in pvp/spvp each week. The winner of that week gets a nerf, and the looser(last) gets a boost. How about it devs, is this a good ideea ?

Nope since it req. Skills.. I mean ele shouldn’t be nerfed maybe boosted.. But it is very diff to balance something with differ skillset and differ playstyle. They could just go the blizz style.. One class.. Same abilities.. Same weapons.. Here is your dull balance;)

HA HA HA.

True true. We need less life in our HP pool, it’s very hard to kill us right now. Our DPS is so high comparing to Warriros, that we deserve to reduce it by half, at least. I don’t understand why we have so much variety of conditions spam. We should have it reduced too. The amount of boons we can spread is ridiculous, I believe that one boon per minute should be more than enough.

I don’t get it. Guardian is the most nerfed class so far, and people keep trolling us, demanding even more nerfs. Is it just a sadistic intention? By name definition, we are G U A R D I A N S. We are supposed to be durable and spread protection around us. No idea what’s wrong with that. Are people really such bad players, that they can’t kill Guardians in pvp?

It’s enough to check forums of other profession to see which one requires some nerfs. For example Warrior – all of them are happily coming up with very bright ideas, how to make their Warriors even funnier – 2 handed shields, shields in both hands and other fun stuff. They haven’t been nerfed since a very long time, if ever. Their damage is few times bigger than ours (I just read today, someone was unhappy with 19k critical damage, right), yet it’s Guardian that requires additional nerfs

Usually I’m ignoring moronic posts, but the other day I would love to teleport right in front of the troll face and greet it with my Mighty Blow punch.

DanH.5879
Hi.
I would like to complain that some classes like the guardian are OP in pvp kitten if i can kill them with anything really, other than X vs 1). Also some classes are too kittened to play in pvp/spvp like elementalists/engineers. Can we get some sort of balance please ?:)
thank you.

Have you ever considered that you may just be a very bad player?

Maybe you are too lazy or just quite simply lack the skill to learn to fight Guardians?

And because of this you would rather complain for classes to be nefted instead of actually learning how to play the game.

DanH.5879:

Hi.
I would like to complain that some classes like the guardian are OP in pvp kitten if i can kill them with anything really, other than X vs 1). Also some classes are too kittened to play in pvp/spvp like elementalists/engineers. Can we get some sort of balance please ?:)
thank you.

This guy is a thief for sure, they have all the same stupid argument “I should kill every proff/build in 1v1 even if they cant kill me”

A tanky build cant kill 1v1 so he needs help to get kills. It’s fair that is needed more than 1 to kill him. For me that’s balance.

I am a guardian myself.

I tried diffrent builds and I have to say that I don’t feel “overpowered” nor do I feel other classes overpowered.

I get killed in 1v1 but I also do get enough kills myslef.

From all mmo’s I’ve played I found gw2 to be the best balanced for classes in pvp.

I think a bunker build guardian is too strong, and anet seems to think so too. Likewise, bunker water eles, mesmers and thieves are overall a bit on the stronger side too, and anet has mentioned that they are having a close watch on all of them.

Bufs and nerfs will happen over time with all skills.

There will always be some skills / builds that will be “overepowerd”

Pvp balance was terrible bad in WoW, Gw2 does a very good job in the balancing.

It’s not just in PvP. I’m so OP that when I go into Arah, I get free tokens just to not crush the dungeon effortlessly.

DAG-NAB-IT WARRIORS ARE NOT OP THEY ARE WAY UNDER-POWERED..

You Guardians always trying to throw your OP onto other classes is pathetic. Sure that Warrior over there can out dps you by a decent amount but your survivability is 10x what a Warriors is.

Heck ya nerf the QQ out of Guardians and buff Warriors

i for one barely scratch a guardian (too much toughness), and when he finally reaches 1/2 hp, uses heals to 100% !, and yes as i thief i lost all my initiative all 15+ points,
kill him if you can !, i have tried different builds, never won even 1 time, and no, it is not 100% skill….

well when you can’t beat ‘em join ’em. We never die even when we are downed we are still winning. If you do manage to completely deplete our HP pool we aren’t dead we are napping some like to call it meditating but those are the really “elite” guardians who are completely stuck up the rest of the guardian community shuns them.

It’s really hard playing a guardian at first because for some reason the game starts you off with this stupid mace weapon instead of a GS that just sucks you don’t get to spin around a lot and the symbol you make with it just heals you but since we never really die healing is over rated and not needed at all.

But once you get a GS you can spin like a Tasmanian devil and leave total destruction in your wake nothing survives it, nothing and skill 4 on the GS holy kitten its great I wish it had a faster cool down i think its called SoW it rules it’s the only weapon and skill you need as a Guardian because you can’t die, you just nap.

If you lower the health regained from healing meditations or take out the healing meditation all together, guardian will be the most balanced class in the game. But look at it as it is, you make bunker build with meditations nothing can kill you in pvp except for thiefs and maybe mesmers. Make any other builds and things flow as intended.

Personally I would buff the scepter damage output, since guardians need some love during sieges in WvW.

I would like to call all the people who say guardians are dead to this thread and try to talk sense to them. Now this is your kind of thread!

DanH.5879:

I for one barely scratch a guardian (too much Toughness), and when he finally reaches 1/2 hp, uses heals to 100% ! And yes as a Thief I lost all my initiative all 15+ points.
Kill him if you can !,I have tried different builds, never won even 1 time, and no, it is not 100% skill….

Thieves aren’t very strong against Guardians (but from what I hear, they’re pretty good at plenty of other professions), but that doesn’t mean they can’t win. Also, it’s important to know what kind of Guardian you’re up against. Most Guardians seem to run a bunker build, since the rest is less effective.
In order to beat them, you’ll have to rely mostly on condition damage and other kinds of sustained damage. Burst isn’t very useful. Also, try to put Poison up once the Guardian starts losing health.

And you know what I find curious? That so many players come to this (sub)forum claiming we are overpowered, but no-one comes here asking for our weaknesses, or how to kill us.

Ynna.8769:

DanH.5879:

I for one barely scratch a guardian (too much Toughness), and when he finally reaches 1/2 hp, uses heals to 100% ! And yes as a Thief I lost all my initiative all 15+ points.
Kill him if you can !,I have tried different builds, never won even 1 time, and no, it is not 100% skill….

Thieves aren’t very strong against Guardians (but from what I hear, they’re pretty good at plenty of other professions), but that doesn’t mean they can’t win. Also, it’s important to know what kind of Guardian you’re up against. Most Guardians seem to run a bunker build, since the rest is less effective.
In order to beat them, you’ll have to rely mostly on condition damage and other kinds of sustained damage. Burst isn’t very useful. Also, try to put Poison up once the Guardian starts losing health.

And you know what I find curious? That so many players come to this (sub)forum claiming we are overpowered, but no-one comes here asking for our weaknesses, or how to kill us.

This.

• you and your ideeas… “toss in two shouts and trait into “shouts remove conditions” and you’re now removing a condition from everyone every however many seconds, not to mention you can pull all party conditions to yourself, then remove them with the trait plus your own soldier runes.”

OP is a carebear who is having a L2P issue. Nothing more. Either that or a troll. Most likely both. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

Ynna.8769:

DanH.5879:

I for one barely scratch a guardian (too much Toughness), and when he finally reaches 1/2 hp, uses heals to 100% ! And yes as a Thief I lost all my initiative all 15+ points.
Kill him if you can !,I have tried different builds, never won even 1 time, and no, it is not 100% skill….

Thieves aren’t very strong against Guardians (but from what I hear, they’re pretty good at plenty of other professions), but that doesn’t mean they can’t win. Also, it’s important to know what kind of Guardian you’re up against. Most Guardians seem to run a bunker build, since the rest is less effective.
In order to beat them, you’ll have to rely mostly on condition damage and other kinds of sustained damage. Burst isn’t very useful. Also, try to put Poison up once the Guardian starts losing health.

And you know what I find curious? That so many players come to this (sub)forum claiming we are overpowered, but no-one comes here asking for our weaknesses, or how to kill us.

It’s because it’s so much easier for all the baddies to just complain about OPness and demand the devs nerf X profession. Sadly a lot of people don’t want to try to figure things out on their own and instead immediately start demanding nerfs when someone kills them in PvP. I generally feel very sorry for those types of people because if they’re like that in a video game, I’d hate to see what they’re like in real life.

(Can’t quote): “You and your ideas… “toss in two Shouts and trait into “Shouts remove conditions” and you’re now removing a condition from everyone every ²⁶ seconds, not to mention you can pull all party conditions to yourself, then remove them with the trait plus your own soldier runes.””
This would be a build especially tailored to removing conditions, and even then conditions can be easily applied faster than they can be removed. So there’s one (maybe two) builds for Guardians that are good against conditions and it forces them in a role that not everyone enjoys.

I recognize that quote DanH, I bow to you.

This one time, at band camp, I was able to heal up 100% of my health, block 4 attacks in a row, then channel block for 2 sections, and purge all conditions from me whenever I wanted, and had 3 blinks and 2 teleports, and could keep people blinded the entire fight, and then when i was out of cooldowns I was able to just pop retaliation and watch people melt and the best thing about it was that I never took any damage because I had 3000 toughness but yet I also was able to heal for like 10k because I had +1400 healing, and then you should really look at my poewr becase it’s at, like, 3700 and my vitality, it’s like 20k hp…

My spec: 30/30/30/30/30

I own u.

Make a defensive build and stack toughness and vitality with any other proff. and you´ll see that you can not be killed in 1v1 situation but you wont make a kill in 1vs1 situation either.

Thieves and mesmers wearing berserker gear and with an offensive build can scape from a zerg……well any other proff. can….so thats op!!!

Advice make a guardian go to myths and wear it with tough/vit/pow, then join a spvp and see if you can make a kill in 1v1 situation.

I have a guardian, a warr and a mesmer.

With the guardian i use 2 builds. One offensive with full berserker and the other defensive with 42k karma tou/vit/pow and soldiers rune. I tell you that in the ofensive gear mesmer have much more survavility.

How is this thread not locked yet and Dan H. not marked for trolling? Seriously?

then tell us how any char can kill a bunker build guardian before it(he/she) gets killed ?
a weakness thread to show us how it can be killed in 1 vs 1 (no runaways)
he should have 50% chance to kill, and 50% to get killed imo. (at the moment this is not the case…)

i did not saw an thief complaining about other classes
i lool’d

how can a char kill a bunker before they get killed? umm what would kill them? the bunker?????

but if you wanna know how to kill a bunker, use conditions and buff removal..

if you talk about 1 vs 1
let’s see
guardian is not very mobile compared to other classes, can be avoided, he got no cripple , he got:
1 imobilize on staf 3 seconds with cooldown 15
1 leap on greatsword /1 blink on shortsword (both with long cooldowns)
elementarist cannot be killed by bunker guardian because not enough dmg, compared to elementarist heals
mesmers eat bunkers , not enough dmg even to kill clones
thieves : well they got thief guide for 1 vs 1, + ambush trap , 3 other thives is 4 vs 1
for necro can be an little dificult, because condition removal
well rangers don’t really have an chance to be honest or i haven’t faced pro rangers yet
on warrior vs guardian depends on player: i usualy won vs warrior but i lost vs few

-thieves : well they got thief guide for 1 vs 1, + ambush trap , 3 other thives is 4 vs 1
it was such a good joke, i forgot to laugh…

l2p
3 scorpions wire aren’t enough for you

Hey arena net stop favoring professions over the others and make a balanced game for people to enjoy of which you should have done by now considering all the updates you’ve all made and one other thing the people who say l2p just can’t admit they use op builds so they can act like gods in pvp and never be nerfed

Pic says it all

I find it ridiculous when people want to nerf Guardians because of their ability to mitigate damage and heal well. If Guardians had that nerfed then they would just be a poor dps class with absolutely no unique aspect or benefit to them.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!111!!!!!11!!11111

This is hilarious! ……Oh wait…. You’re serious about this OP junk?! It’s not a joke?

/backsawayslowlyandcautiously.

Guys, you’re posting in a thread over a year old. Stop.

For the sake of posterity

Dear all,

I am very distraught that my class is so underpowered and I have to work 3x as hard as my opponent who just rolls his face over the keyboard and kills me instantly if I make a single mistake. You have no idea how much skill and dedication I have to put in when all some random scrub needs to do is just pick some OP build and win. Anet, why is every class so easy to play except the one I played? I mean I just rolled the OP class and it was so faceroll! That moa in Queensdale died in 3 seconds. I can’t even do that on my current character. I also got 17 kills in wvw at level 2; sure they were all afk, but still … yea! See, every other class besides the one I play is unfair, except mine, which takes true skill to play because you gotta work harder to overcome imbalance. It has nothing to do with how I play, because my play is always perfect and I don’t exploit imbalance like those other poopyheads. Every time I win, it’s because I was a genius and outplayed them with my brilliance; every time I lose they either got lucky, hacked, brought someone else, or did something really cheap. So please, nerf the crap out of them or I will quit playing. Well, not really. I might close the game though.

I saved you from reading pages of balance posts across all profession boards; you’re welcome.

ArchonWing.9480:

For the sake of posterity

Dear all,

I am very distraught that my class is so underpowered and I have to work 3x as hard as my opponent who just rolls his face over the keyboard and kills me instantly if I make a single mistake. You have no idea how much skill and dedication I have to put in when all some random scrub needs to do is just pick some OP build and win. Anet, why is every class so easy to play except the one I played? I mean I just rolled the OP class and it was so faceroll! That moa in Queensdale died in 3 seconds. I can’t even do that on my current character. I also got 17 kills in wvw at level 2; sure they were all afk, but still … yea! See, every other class besides the one I play is unfair, except mine, which takes true skill to play because you gotta work harder to overcome imbalance. It has nothing to do with how I play, because my play is always perfect and I don’t exploit imbalance like those other poopyheads. Every time I win, it’s because I was a genius and outplayed them with my brilliance; every time I lose they either got lucky, hacked, brought someone else, or did something really cheap. So please, nerf the crap out of them or I will quit playing. Well, not really. I might close the game though.

I saved you from reading pages of balance posts across all profession boards; you’re welcome.

This has so much win written alll over it. lol.

ThePainTrain.8190:

DanH.5879
Hi.
I would like to complain that some classes like the guardian are OP in pvp kitten if i can kill them with anything really, other than X vs 1). Also some classes are too kittened to play in pvp/spvp like elementalists/engineers. Can we get some sort of balance please ?:)
thank you.

Have you ever considered that you may just be a very bad player?

Maybe you are too lazy or just quite simply lack the skill to learn to fight Guardians?

And because of this you would rather complain for classes to be nefted instead of actually learning how to play the game.

LOL

Those were my exact thoughts!!

DanH.5879:

Hi.
I would like to complain that some classes like the guardian are OP in pvp (kitten if i can kill them with anything really, other than X vs 1). Also some classes are too kitten to play in pvp/spvp like elementalists/engineers. Can we get some sort of balance please ?:)
thank you.

That’s the deal with bunkers:

if you can manage to kill them fast in a 2v1 situation, it might already be a victory.