Guild Wars 2

Traps and Runes of the Trapper

stronkest build inc hybrid trapper master stealth speed

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I won’t play my Guard like the kitten trapper condi rangers do
but I am looking forwart to the dragon hunter, I will defenitly try him out

You don’t have to play it like Condi Rangers. Personally would use it to stealth burst someone.

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

BB says that about anything he doesn’t like.

How about we actually, you know … PLAY it before we say it’s good or bad? UMKAY?

yeah this kitten is gonna be scary.

Cannot wait for DH. I’m getting the feeling that’s the unpopular opinion but I’m really excited to try playing the class in a different way than we’re used to.

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

Burn Guard is still a gimmick though…

Black Box.9312:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

Burn Guard is still a gimmick though…

@BBox, isnt meta a bunch of gimmicks anyway?

Black Box.9312:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

Burn Guard is still a gimmick though…

If burn guards is a gimmick, than so are other power guard builds. They both basically perform the same!

Gimmick. Tell that to the teams who’ve won tourneys running burn bunker.

There is nothing gimmicky about it; Burning on Guardian is not just there to be there. It has a purpose and it fills that purpose well.

Guard is about to become thief. It’s going to be lovely with a hammer and shield in EOTM

Aeolus.3615:

Black Box.9312:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

Burn Guard is still a gimmick though…

@BBox, isnt meta a bunch of gimmicks anyway?

Quoting for literal truth

Those traps all have 45 sec cd, so i’m not sure i would do this…

Why wait to play it? Go make a ranger right now. :0

I might try the bow but **** the traps, the loss of survivability for such long cds isn’t worth it. Don’t forget you still have the lowest HP pool and no access to passive movement speed.

XxsdgxX.8109:

I might try the bow but **** the traps, the loss of survivability for such long cds isn’t worth it. Don’t forget you still have the lowest HP pool and no access to passive movement speed.

Exactly. Trap builds will have no sustain and no condi clear. Stealth and superspeed are not going to save you from being kited by an enemy smart enough not to stand in that spot where you clearly just laid down all of your traps.

Black Box.9312:

XxsdgxX.8109:

I might try the bow but **** the traps, the loss of survivability for such long cds isn’t worth it. Don’t forget you still have the lowest HP pool and no access to passive movement speed.

Exactly. Trap builds will have no sustain and no condi clear. Stealth and superspeed are not going to save you from being kited by an enemy smart enough not to stand in that spot where you clearly just laid down all of your traps.

cast mesmer time dome on guardian aplying traps and kill it… :P

Players wont play it if trapper guardian isnt overpowered in damage output, since it look they have many ways to get self trapped.

i bought a set of Trapper Runes from TP the day they revealed DragonHunter just in case but i get the feeling the CD on traps will make it not worth while.

Spartacus.3192:

i bought a set of Trapper Runes from TP the day they revealed DragonHunter just in case but i get the feeling the CD on traps will make it not worth while.

Did you buy Runes of the Trooper instead? Trapper Runes are account bound since you have to make them through crafting.

Just wondering.

Expiatus.4210:

Spartacus.3192:

i bought a set of Trapper Runes from TP the day they revealed DragonHunter just in case but i get the feeling the CD on traps will make it not worth while.

Did you buy Runes of the Trooper instead? Trapper Runes are account bound since you have to make them through crafting.

Just wondering.

ooops my bad i bought the mats and crafted 6 of them and stored in bank

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

It’s really not going to be that good, guys…

You said the exact same thing about burn guards… lol.

just came here to say the same…

;)

pretty sure Dragonhunter will be meta for dps on guardian class as well as roamer.
however traps do have issues. they take up slots we need for condi cleanse and mobility while bringing none of that.

so again: we will see

I could see a particular zerg busting build develop from DH traps. It won’t be super useful or survivable in zergs, but it’ll have is niche and perform very well.

• Radiance, Dragonhunter, Virtues
• Full Carrion with perhaps Scepter+Torch/Longbow.
• Find a chokepoint you can guarantee the zerg will cross. (Ideal example, defending a tower or keep).
• Place 2-4 traps at the chokepoint (like behind a door/gate)
• As soon as you have people on your traps, cast Longbow 5 to potentially snare
• If you traited scepter (Zeal instead of Radiance), immediately swap to get those delicious might stacks.
• Lay a smite or other aoe down for good measure.
• kite at ranged and watch the world burn

Particularly with trapper runes, you can add in some mixups. Are the traps directly behind the door? Are the actually on the stairs? Maybe the zerg is being patient and waiting; so drop em in stealth right under their noses. Even if it’s not incredibly successful, the threat of there. I’d expect zergs to potentially change their tactics because of the potential presence of a few of these.

Ghotistyx.6942:

I could see a particular zerg busting build develop from DH traps. It won’t be super useful or survivable in zergs, but it’ll have is niche and perform very well.

• Radiance, Dragonhunter, Virtues
• Full Carrion with perhaps Scepter+Torch/Longbow.
• Find a chokepoint you can guarantee the zerg will cross. (Ideal example, defending a tower or keep).
• Place 2-4 traps at the chokepoint (like behind a door/gate)
• As soon as you have people on your traps, cast Longbow 5 to potentially snare
• If you traited scepter (Zeal instead of Radiance), immediately swap to get those delicious might stacks.
• Lay a smite or other aoe down for good measure.
• kite at ranged and watch the world burn

Particularly with trapper runes, you can add in some mixups. Are the traps directly behind the door? Are the actually on the stairs? Maybe the zerg is being patient and waiting; so drop em in stealth right under their noses. Even if it’s not incredibly successful, the threat of there. I’d expect zergs to potentially change their tactics because of the potential presence of a few of these.

And here is the problem. For most of what you described you do not even need stealth. On top to lay a trap under someones nose while stealthed you have to place a trap beforehand. Finding a situation where you can utelize both traps might be difficult (but rewarding). If you can not manage that or get revealed because the trap triggers prematurely then you waste a utility slot for 3 secs of stealth.

I think the traps will shine a little more in roaming and small men skirmishes where you have more overview of who goes where.

You’re correct in that the trapper runes aren’t particularly needed, but what you can do is pre stealth, drop the traps earlier than they’re expecting, and then high tail it.

Or you could drop it inside the zerg to get them moving. Dropping one trap will give you plenty of time to drop a second, and since you’re a trap dispensary, you’ve just completed your job.

Balthazar is still probably going to be better. We’ll probably need to actually experiment with trapper runes to figure out their best uses.

With carrion it’ll see some viability in the burst department, a little like the full burn build. I don’t expect it to actually be viable but it’ll serve well in 5v5 or more fights