Guild Wars 2

Hey
I have mained a guardian for a long time (thx god for travellers rune).
But recently I changed to shout elementalist, and love how you can stay alive for like forever.

I was thinking if there is a build for guardians who is like this.. either healing alot with great substain, or dmg+substain. I tried revenant, but the numbers looks better on paper than practice.
And I remember the old medi and shout builds, but think with new Elite specs, and nerfs here and ther meta might have changed.

Anyone got some experience on the field?

The problem is, DH is a primarily selfish DPS focused spec that doesn’t synergize well with a mostly support role from my experiance.

I know of a strong mace/shield sword/focus block focused build that is fairly strong sustain but with mediocre damage, but it’s not really party support.

Personally, base guardian is stronger in a support sustain roll imo. For carrying bad high level fractal groups I run this build since it’s kitten near indestructible. (not much I haven’t face tanked with it in high level fractals)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQNApeSl0Ah2hYjQwTIQTEH+D1NcThPAPCvQQYDgv9BA-ThhZABy+IAAQ5Xqq/0iSwN3fIzzAAA-e

No, it won’t buff the parties DPS and it hits like a wet noodle, but it will succeed with any party at any level fractal since it increases the party as a wholes survivability considerably. It’ll just take longer to clear a boss.

I do change the utilities and traits around depending on the fractal.

The base guardian isn’t even remotely viable, at least not in PvP.

You can try this for a mid-long ranged support build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJAWTl8Ah+dYnQweIwPELWEFWAcALp8un7/eWGUenHA-TZxDQBv7CA8k9Hg3TAAAHCABWGAA
It’s not meta though, so if that’s what you’re looking for then you’ll have to look at other classes.

Fashion Mage.3712:

The base guardian isn’t even remotely viable, at least not in PvP.

You can try this for a mid-long ranged support build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJAWTl8Ah+dYnQweIwPELWEFWAcALp8un7/eWGUenHA-TZxDQBv7CA8k9Hg3TAAAHCABWGAA
It’s not meta though, so if that’s what you’re looking for then you’ll have to look at other classes.

I was talking PVE. PVP is naturally DH or go home. That’s why I mentioned high level fractals genius.

I don’t know why anyone would be trying to support on guardian in pvp at this point. We lost our way before Hot, and then HOT just made it worse

I tried to make a more focused small group support guard in WvW once, with lots of heals (not just meditation).

Its pretty pointless to consider over dh. Building for more AoE healing means gimping your offensive capabilities with very little gains over base. Just go full marauder with traps plus a few medi heals and roflstomp people, thats your “support”. The dh is kind of funny with the the F2 heal being the eqvivalent of a class heal…

Is you run healing power MI will heal allies for a decent bit and yourself a ton if traited.

Guardian allied healing is generally pretty bad without healing power and % outgoing healing. Go all the way for it or don’t go for it at all.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJASTnsABFChddC2CBEEhlFi6KA+yBA7CWuTQ+4T+pH-TBCBABnpEMgnAgZK/IV9HAuEARv/QeaCSUHAA-e

This is what you want to use for damage/support. Celestial stats are the way to go. They give you a good base to start with, then you can change you Weapons, Back-peice and Amulet to whatever other stats you want to lean towards.

Basically, the best way to support as a guardian is to auto-attack with hammer to give permanent protection, coupled with the Writ of Persistance trait to give healing to everyone in the symbol created from the hammer auto-attack. Then you can take altruistic healing which gives you even more healing for every boon you get. And you get a lot of boons from Empowering Might, Hammer auto-attack, #2 skill on hammer that can blast your auto-attack symbol for retaliation. You will still have decent damage thanks to the well-rounded Celestial stats. Plus don’t forget that we have increased condi damage with Celestial as well, so don’t just look at Power as a gauge for how strong this build is.

If you don’t need the extra healing from Altruistic Healing, take Zeal for more damage traits.

Thanks for all the answers
I think I gave up support guard, due to that I feel elementalist are better.
But that celestial stuff looks rather okay.. always thought it was waste.. jack-of-no-trades, master of none, kinda stats.. but it seems rather ok.. would try to bump the power up to 2k if possible though. Not bad.

Phoenix the One.4071:

Thanks for all the answers
I think I gave up support guard, due to that I feel elementalist are better.
But that celestial stuff looks rather okay.. always thought it was waste.. jack-of-no-trades, master of none, kinda stats.. but it seems rather ok.. would try to bump the power up to 2k if possible though. Not bad.

If you just change your weapon to Berzerker, you will go from 1950 Power —> 2100 Power. A lot of people like to diss non-zerker builds, but Celestial is actually really good for classes like Guardian who are designed to do a little bit of everything. As long as you are okay with not being the best at just one-thing, but still good at everything depending, then this is a great build. You can even tank raids with it, with just a few changes. I’ll link the build that Narc used (he’s in DnT guild) for Vale Guardian fight.

I Highly recommend this build. I used to run full clerics, shout guardian. But honestly, I’m having way more fun with this build, because I can actually do damage and still provide support. Definitely not as much support, but at the end of the day, that kind of support isn’t even that viable in stuff like Fractals. At the higher tier fractals, you kind of need that damage more than the extra healing you get from Clerics.

I will try this for real, just need to collect the gear hopefully my first ascended chest will be wupwup xD

In small group WvW, ele support is better. The support guard shines in larger scale fights. In smaller scale, meditrapper is likely the way to go because you need to down the other small groups fast, versus you need to outsustain a large, prolonged zerg fight.