Guardian versus MM necro

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Posted by: Vidal.5384

Vidal.5384

Hello everyone,

So I play a high DPS meditation build 0/25/30/0/15. Seem to work very well in duels against mostly everyone…. but I can’t beat the MM necro for the life of me. I am level 41 in sPvP so I know my way around too.

I use greatwword + Sword/focus for vulnerability on blind and mobility plus energy sigils on weapons.

Anyways… anyone have any tips? this is against a very good player of course and he seems to just destroy all classes no matter what the build. What gives? am I missing something?

He is a power necro with soldier amulet plus doylak runes… and all regen from minions plus 30% damage from them. Well the whole package basically 20/0/20/30/0.

Looking for advice.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

The good news is that if he is using the trait setup you say, then the answer is actually pretty straightforward. Use the Greatsword (or try Hammer) to destroy his minions, then go after him while they are on cooldown. He will likely detonate the bone minions, but you may be able to kill one of them before it goes boom.

Wall of Reflection stops Bone Fiend and Flesh Wurm for its duration.

You might find it’s worth calling for assistance to take down the blood fiend. Since Guardians don’t have access to poison, and the Blood Fiend has a lot of health (pretty close to the Flesh Golem), you may want to have someone else focus on the blood fiend while you take on the necro himself. Even though the Vampiric Master trait is very good, it won’t sustain him without the Blood Fiend.

The main reason the “kill the minions first” strategy works is because he is not running Death Nova. Binding Blade the minions,, drop Symbol of Warth, then shred them apart,before going after the necro. He has 16 seconds for his shortest cooldown and if you keep up the pressure, he will likely not have a good opportunity to re-summon them once that time is finished.

Also, Soldier runes on a necro? I’m not sure this guy is actually that good.

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Posted by: Alkaholic.3875

Alkaholic.3875

@Drarnor: Ur last statement invalidates ur advice. W/ multiple minions attacking at once, he’ll be eating death novas often. Also, most good MM necros can survive/kite w/o minions for a bit. DS1 hits pretty hard too and DS3 is a 10 sec CD.

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Posted by: Vidal.5384

Vidal.5384

Sorry he is using Soldier Amulet!! not the soldier runes…. He is actually using the doylak runes for the extra regen and toughness/vitality.

This is the exact necro build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAW3djEat6la2a07JAJFRT90juBPcIF5KNA-TsAA1CtIsRZjzGjNSbs2MKYVwGEA

And to be a little more helpful here is mine:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgSDHHyNEf4ER+hVazAgH86BEjYDB-TsAg0CnIKSVkrITRyisFN+Y9xGCA

Now I have tried to kill his minions first but I can’t seem to kill them fast enough to make the impact I need. My thought is that my build might be too berserker and I take damage from too many minions to be able to use my typical defenses (blind, block, dodge). These all get wasted so quick because of taking so many hits at once.

I usually kill MM necros pretty easily to be honest lol. This one has just mastered what he needs to do and does kite extremely well which is always an issue with the Guardian… Even though I have max mobility. Also uses Death Shroud exactly when he needs to.

Funny thing is when I use his same exact build against him he still beats it with ease lol. Though I don’t really play a ton on necro so that doesn’t help.

Basically going to take two people to bring him down it seems.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

@Drarnor: Ur last statement invalidates ur advice. W/ multiple minions attacking at once, he’ll be eating death novas often. Also, most good MM necros can survive/kite w/o minions for a bit. DS1 hits pretty hard too and DS3 is a 10 sec CD.

Death nova isn’t an issue because his friend is running 20/0/20/30. Death nova is a grandmaster Death Magic trait, and his friend only has 20 points in that line.

Also, not sure if you play necro, since Doom (DS#3) is a 20 second cooldown untraited (17 seconds traited).

So no, my advice is still sound.

to OP: Try swapping greatsword for hammer. You can get the valuable Protection to shore up your defenses with easy blast for retaliation (helps nicely against minions). You should be able to just crush most of the minions that way.

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