Guild Wars 2

They can already do everything a Warrior can do, except better. You should nerf Warrior’s HP and buff Guardians HP up to Warriors and make Guardian the alpha class it deserves to be.

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

Guardians are better in every way, besides damage. And Warriors are not much better unless the enemy stands still…

Daecollo.9578:

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

Guardians are better in every way, besides damage. And Warriors are not much better unless the enemy stands still…

Lol…

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

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@OP. I’m guessing you do not play either class since you don’t know what you are talking about. Warriors and Guards are used for very different things and each shines in their respective area.

altough presented rather weird and unlikeable, the girl got a point: guards and warriors dps are nearly the same – walk over to gw2guru to look at the math (and people that actually got a clue of this game

what she actually wants to tell us (i guess) is the old guards are OP jazz – which is utterly boring.

In my experience a well-geared banner warrior (even before the patch) absolutely ROFLstomps Guardians as team support/healers.

Which doesn’t stop me from running a support Guard, it just makes me focus on the types of support a Guard does well.

Or was this deeply insightful compare and contrast session in the context of the 12-year old’s one dimensional universe of “I killz it. I kilz it guud!”?

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_the_Grove

> : )

kinda cripple

Jax.5261:

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_the_Grove

> : )

kinda cripple

But not a cripple, and also not a Guardian based ability.

George Steel.1804:

Jax.5261:

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_the_Grove

> : )

kinda cripple

But not a cripple, and also not a Guardian based ability.

Ya I know I was jokin’

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

I’m not sure this really counts either, but:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Affliction

Do I get gold now?

On a more serious note, I’m going to have to agree with most other people here – the Warrior and the Guardian are completely different, and the Guardian only completely outshines the Warrior in a TPvP setting (even then, it’s because the Warrior’s potential roles can be filled better by a variety of classes, not just by the Guardian). PvE goes to the Warrior hands down, and WvW is a toss-up depending on what type of play you’re talking about. Warrior is still a very competitive choice for many roles in WvW.

In general, Warriors have better burst, mobility, ranged combat potential, and CC than Guardians do. That’s not a comprehensive list, but it’s most of the big ones. It’s worth mentioning that some Guardian weapons, like the Hammer, can compete with the Warrior’s CC, but Guardians do not have it spread across their weapons and utilities with the consistency Warriors do. There are also a number of roles that the two fulfill that are simply difficult to compare (e.g. Warrior Banners and Guardian-style support).

Long story short, Guardians absolutely cannot do everything that Warriors can, nor can Warriors do everything Guardians can. The two serve very different roles in most game modes, and for good reason.

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

PS:

Guardians are better in every way, besides damage. And Warriors are not much better unless the enemy stands still…

Bwhahaha… I swear… Every. Single. Time. You post. It’s hilarious, and you don’t even know it. Oh man…

I think this the OP is joking, no?

I find it hilarious.

Guardians are better then Warriors generally in more facets of the game especially pvp. That doesn’t mean you can’t find some niches were a Warrior can outperform a Guardian but Guardians are a more versatile/stronger class. He is exaggerating but really now the Guardian is a great class. Don’t cry poor we all play one of the strongest classes in the game no reason not to admit it.

You guys do realize I posted this on April first, right?

However I do find guardians kind of ridiculous at the moment.

Daecollo.9578:

You guys do realize I posted this on April first, right?

However I do find guardians kind of ridiculous at the moment.

So you’re back-pedaling while using April Fools but your past quotes always point towards wanting to improve warriors or complaining about the guardian’s pros vs the warrior’s cons.

I still think you are still trying to find the class that can do everything and excels in it.

Elementalist’s forum is that way —-—>

Or maybe you should try to overcome the popular belief that warriors are underpowered and need buffs and find what suits you. I play both and I understand the difference.

Cures.7451:

altough presented rather weird and unlikeable, the girl got a point: guards and warriors dps are nearly the same – walk over to gw2guru to look at the math (and people that actually got a clue of this game

what she actually wants to tell us (i guess) is the old guards are OP jazz – which is utterly boring.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Damage-Record-Thread

/Thread

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

Wall of reflection and some luck

George Steel.1804:

Show me how we can cripple an enemy, and I’ll send you in-game gold.

Human guards have access to prayer to dwayna. More often then not this skill cripples the opponent when used from a Guardian.

JJBigs.8456:

Cures.7451:

altough presented rather weird and unlikeable, the girl got a point: guards and warriors dps are nearly the same – walk over to gw2guru to look at the math (and people that actually got a clue of this game

what she actually wants to tell us (i guess) is the old guards are OP jazz – which is utterly boring.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Damage-Record-Thread

/Thread

as i said – you ll need to go to guru to find people with a clue
Math is considered little pointless screenshots here ^^

Daecollo.9578:

You guys do realize I posted this on April first, right?

However I do find guardians kind of ridiculous at the moment.

I find it ridiculous that I can spend X amount of time trying to kill a monster and then a warrior walks up beside me to the same type and kills it in more than half the time it takes me. He’ll have finished off 3 by the time I’ve finished my measly 1.

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Daecollo.9578:

You guys do realize I posted this on April first, right?

However I do find guardians kind of ridiculous at the moment.

I find it ridiculous that I can spend X amount of time trying to kill a monster and then a warrior walks up beside me to the same type and kills it in more than half the time it takes me. He’ll have finished off 3 by the time I’ve finished my measly 1.

Are you talking open world? Open world really does not matter, when they are both 80 and get critical gear, YES warriors will burn down mobs that stand still quickly.

However, when you actually reach hard content where mobs do more then just stand still and in pvp, Warriors DPS goes down the toilet. Guardians move DO do less damage, but you are MUCH MUCH more mobile so they’re actual realistic DPS is much higher. Don’t ask me how many times I had to cancel my attacks as a warrior mid-fight because my target walked away from me.

Wait….guardian is " MUCH MUCH more mobile" than warrior, since when? Or are you only referring to skills like 100 blade? Cause symbols or WW aren’t much better, you know, when target walk away.

As far as I can tell, warrior is far better at running away than guardian, which is what I consider as mobility. That said, only thing I miss while playing warrior is lack of stability, can’t just jump in zerg and start spinning like my guardian.

Daecollo.9578:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Daecollo.9578:

You guys do realize I posted this on April first, right?

However I do find guardians kind of ridiculous at the moment.

I find it ridiculous that I can spend X amount of time trying to kill a monster and then a warrior walks up beside me to the same type and kills it in more than half the time it takes me. He’ll have finished off 3 by the time I’ve finished my measly 1.

Are you talking open world? Open world really does not matter, when they are both 80 and get critical gear, YES warriors will burn down mobs that stand still quickly.

However, when you actually reach hard content where mobs do more then just stand still and in pvp, Warriors DPS goes down the toilet. Guardians move DO do less damage, but you are MUCH MUCH more mobile so they’re actual realistic DPS is much higher. Don’t ask me how many times I had to cancel my attacks as a warrior mid-fight because my target walked away from me.

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O.O
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Yep, you’re a troll alright. You need to go play the classes before you even post here anymore.

Congo Rats, you just became the second person I’ve added to my ignore list right there alongside the other guy who makes fun of people for using Consumables.

Daecollo.9578:

Guardians move DO do less damage, but you are MUCH MUCH more mobile so they’re actual realistic DPS is much higher.

Guardians…. more mobile than warriors…?

Learn 2 play.

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I think he was using it in the context of damage mobility. Warriors HB does high damage but doesnt actually hit anything since people move around.

Guardian combat is more fluid.

Effective DPS on the Guardian is better. Warriors have high potential damage. But their big hit skills are easy to avoid.

They already are an Alpha class xD!

KensaiZen.3740:

I think he was using it in the context of damage mobility. Warriors HB does high damage but doesnt actually hit anything since people move around.

Guardian combat is more fluid.

Effective DPS on the Guardian is better. Warriors have high potential damage. But their big hit skills are easy to avoid.

Same with zealot’s defense, Flashing blade misses target by hitself sometimes selecte target, press skill, and you appear on a random nearby place lol.

Daecollo.9578:

They can already do everything a Warrior can do, except better. You should nerf Warrior’s HP and buff Guardians HP up to Warriors and make Guardian the alpha class it deserves to be.

But if they do that, they will completely ruin the fact that this game ditches the trinity so that any class can fill out any roll.

Besides, if guardians can “do everything a warrior can do”, why can’t they wield as many weapon types, allowing them to mix and match weapon skills like warriors can?

Please leave game design to the game designers.

MadDemon.7548:

Daecollo.9578:

They can already do everything a Warrior can do, except better. You should nerf Warrior’s HP and buff Guardians HP up to Warriors and make Guardian the alpha class it deserves to be.

But if they do that, they will completely ruin the fact that this game ditches the trinity so that any class can fill out any roll.

Besides, if guardians can “do everything a warrior can do”, why can’t they wield as many weapon types, allowing them to mix and match weapon skills like warriors can?

Please leave game design to the game designers.

And that is why Warriors use Maces and sword all the time in there main hand.

ArtemisEntreri.4138:

So you’re back-pedaling while using April Fools but your past quotes always point towards wanting to improve warriors or complaining about the guardian’s pros vs the warrior’s cons.

This. So very this.

Also, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him/her/it complain about roughly every class they play… Which points towards a common denominator, you know. Just sayin’…

Nike.2631:

Its stunning how little you understand either class.

Irena.1062:

They already are an Alpha class xD!

IkR.