Guild Wars 2

Doing some number crunching on a spreadsheet on my end.

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Symbol of Faith
(Writ of the Merciful, AH, and Writ of Persistence using the Mace.)

(yourself with AH and assuming 4 other people standing in it)
0 +healing = 3,492 health over 6 seconds
250 +healing = 3,867
500 +healing = 4,242
750 +healing = 4,617
1000 +healing = 4,992
1250 +healing = 5,367
1500 +healing = 5,742
2000 +healing = 6,492

(other players, no AH — remember, it can hit 5 people maximum // no battle presence, same traits above)
0 +healing = 1,422 healing over 6 seconds
250 +healing = 1,722
500 +healing = 2,022
750 + healing = 2,322
1000 + healing = 2,622
1250 + healing = 2,922
1500 + healing = 3,222
2000 +healing = 3,822

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Staff Empower (AH on yourself)

0 +healing = 5,640 over full duration (AH procs 60 times)
250 +healing = 6,040
500 +healing = 6,440
750 +healing = 6,840
1000 +healing = 7,240
1250 +healing = 7,640
1500 +healing = 8,040
2000 +healing = 8,840

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Staff Empower (other players, 5 max)

Heals for 1500 (base) plus your +healing. You can do the math yourself. :O

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Symbol of Swiftness Healing (only works with Writ of Merciful & AH traits)

(yourself – 4 other players, AH trigger + Writ of Persistence – 5 pulses)
0 +healing = 2,260 healing (over 5s — basically 25 AH procs)
250 +healing = 2,416
500 +healing = 2,572
750 +healing = 2,728
1000 +healing = 2,885
1250 +healing = 3,041
1500 +healing = 3,197
2000 +healing = 3,510

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Symbol of Swiftness on other players (Just Writ of Merciful procs, 5 players max)

0 +healing = 535 (over 5s)
250 +healing = 628
500 +healing = 722
750 +healing = 816
1000 +healing = 910
1250 +healing = 1,003
1500 +healing = 1,097
2000 +healing = 1,285

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Selfless Daring (heals players around you + yourself when you dodge roll, in sPvP it heals for half as much)

0 +healing = 130
250 +healing = 379
500 +healing = 629
750 +healing = 879
1000 +healing = 1,129
1250 +healing = 1,379
1500 +healing = 1,629
2000 +healing = 2,129

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Shield of Absorption (breaking dat bubble)

0 +healing = 1,300
250 +healing = 1,350
500 +healing = 1,400
750 +healing = 1,450
1000 +healing = 1,500
1250 +healing = 1,550
1500 +healing = 1,600
2000 +healing = 1,700

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Pure of Heart (trait that heals when Aegis breaks — scales like crap)

0 +healing = 645
250 +healing = 670
500 +healing = 695
750 +healing = 720
1000 +healing = 745
1250 +healing = 770
1500 +healing = 795
2000 +healing = 820

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Virtue of Resolve & Battle Presence

(passive)
0 +healing = 84 (every 3s) – Absolute Resolution -> 105
250 +healing = 99 – AR -> 124
500 +healing = 114 – AR -> 143
750 +healing = 129 – AR -> 162
1000 +healing = 144 – AR -> 180
1250 +healing = 159 – AR -> 199
1500 +healing = 174 – AR -> 218
2000 +healing = 204 – AR -> 255

Virtue of Resolve (activation)

0 +healing = 1,625
250 +healing = 1,812
500 +healing = 2,000
750 +healing = 2,187
1000 +healing = 2,375
1250 +healing = 2,562
1500 +healing = 2,750
2000 +healing = 3,125

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Shelter

0 +healing = 4,555
250 +healing = 4,730
500 +healing = 4,905
750 +healing = 5,080
1000 +healing = 5,255
1250 +healing = 5,505
1500 +healing = 5,630
2000 +healing = 5,955

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Signet of Resolve

0 +healing = 8,150
250 +healing = 8,462
500 +healing = 8,775
750 +healing = 9,088
1000 +healing = 9,401
1250 +healing = 9,714
1500 +healing = 10,027
2000 +healing = 10,650

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Healing Breeze

0 +healing = 6,525 (self) — 1,725 (allies)
250 +healing = 6,775 (s) – 1,975 (a)
500 +healing = 7,025 (s) – 2,225 (a)
750 +healing = 7,275 (s) – 2,475 (a)
1000 +healing = 7,525 (s) – 2,725 (a)
1250 +healing = 7,775 (s) – 2,975 (a)
1500 +healing = 8,025 (s) – 3,225 (a)
2000 +healing = 8,525 (s) – 3,725 (a)

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Sigil of Water

(30% chance on crit to heal you + nearby allies)
0 +healing = 370
250 +healing = 395
500 +healing = 420
750 +healing = 445
1000 +healing = 470
1250 +healing = 495
1500 +healing = 520
2000 +healing = 570

I think your numbers might be off. Altruistic healing takes advantage of 1% of your total healing power. 69+ (0.01*Healing Power).

With 0 healing power + AH + Staff Empower + 5 people for 12 stacks (60 ticks) = 4140.
With 2000 healing power + AH + Staff Empower + 5 people for 12 stacks (60 ticks) = 5340.

Healing power is just weak for AH.

Might just double check your formula.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just saw that you added the 1500 heal from the staff itself. I find healing power and AH is rather a waste. I would only roll healing power if I was doing symbol healing or the Healway build. Is rather odd that our class is all about the heals but all of our abilities have week coefficients when it comes to applying healing power.

Selfless daring is the only one that takes advantage of our healing power to the fullest since we can only dodge roll twice without vigor or food.

ArtemisEntreri.4138:

I think your numbers might be off. Altruistic healing takes advantage of 1% of your total healing power. 69+ (0.01*Healing Power).

With 0 healing power + AH + Staff Empower + 5 people for 12 stacks (60 ticks) = 4140.
With 2000 healing power + AH + Staff Empower + 5 people for 12 stacks (60 ticks) = 5340.

Healing power is just weak for AH.

Might just double check your formula.

EDIT: Nevermind. Just saw that you added the 1500 heal from the staff itself. I find healing power and AH is rather a waste. I would only roll healing power if I was doing symbol healing or the Healway build.

AH scales poorly with healing power (1500 healing power is a whopping 15 extra healing), but with the Mace it can trigger up to 5 times per second because the Symbol regen boon triggers every second.

(0 +healing) With Symbol of Persistence it makes the Mace regen pulse 6 times so 6*5*69 = 2,070 extra healing to yourself. By yourself AH + Mace is an extra 414 healing which isn’t that impressive so the full benefit is near other players. That’s assuming they’re standing in it for the full duration.

With the Staff it’s just silly. It can proc 60 times (12 stacks of might for yourself + 4 people) in its full duration. 69*60 = 4,410 healing.

I’d prefer seeing numbers for the less obvious skills and traits like:

Shield of Absorption
Pure of Heart
Bow of Truth: Command
Sanctuary
Regeneration (the boon, makes a big diff)
Tome of Courage (if it scales)

I think the healing power coefficients are pretty good to be honest. Imagine how fast the nerf hammer would come flying if AH healed for 150 or so per boon? Imagine how unkillable a mace Guardian would be with 30 Honour if those heals scaled higher.
I usually run full Cleric’s exotics and I barely need to use my #6 at all.
I think people just want more heals for little to no investment in healing gear.

Although I think a trait somewhere like 5%-10% of healing power becomes power would make healing gear a little more useful though. I would say stick it in the Honour line but there’s so many good ones in there already…

Has anyone done a comparison with guardians and water elementalists?

guardian would beat out an elementalist

Here is a comparison for you.

Both: Regeneration: 130 + (0.125 * Healing Power) per second

Traits that grant Regen…
Elementalist:
Elemental Attunement (when attuning to water) 5 seconds <780 health
Inscription (when using a glyph while attuned to water) 10 seconds at 1300 health
Soothing Disruption (when using a Cantrip) 9 seconds at <1300 health
Soothing Wave (when using Mist Form Signet of Water) 6 seconds of regen at 780 health.

Guardian:
Protective Reviver (you and the ally you revive) 10 seconds (1300 health)
Inspired Virtue (upon activating Virtue of Resolve) 5 seconds of regen (<780 health)

Utilities that grant Regen…
Elementalist:
Glyph of Elemental Harmony (when attuned to water) 10 seconds (1300 health)

Guardians:
Hold the Line! 6 seconds ( 780 health)
Save Yourself! 10 seconds (1300 health)

Weapon Skills that give regen…
Ele:
Healing Rain – 4 stacks of regen lasting 4 seconds (water combo field) (2080 health)

Guardian:
Ray of Judgement – 3 seconds (possible 4 bounces so it can heal 3 friendlies after the initial strike on enemy) (390 health)
Symbol of Faith – 4 ticks of 1 second (520 health)
Tome of Courage Elite – Protective Spirit (can be casted twice for duration of tome of courage) – 10 seconds of regen (1300 health)

Here is a link you can copy and paste to see the comparison between the guardian and elementalist abilities to heal. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Heal

At first glance the guardian has the ele beat about sheer amount of options but when you look at the elementalist he has more abilities available on his weapon while attuned that give a crazy amount of healing.

Water Blast – 370 Healing – Water Blast appears to gain 10% returns from Healing Power. For example, 100 Healing Power increases the healing from Water Blast by 10.
Geyser – 808 healing – 2 second duration – Amount Healed = Base Amount + Healing Power * 0.25 – Heals for 3 times if stayed in the whole duration
Healing Rain – See Above….
Water Trident – 1448 healing – Amount healed = Base Amount + Healing Power (so 1*healing power?)
Cone of Cold – 740 healing – Amount healed (total) = Base Amount + Healing Power * 0.32
Cleansing Wave – 1302 healing – Amount healed = Base Amount + Healing Power
Tidal Wave – 325 healing – (not sure if this is affected by Healing Power)

I guess what I am trying to get at is it seems Elementalist benefit and can use healing power more effectively than a guardian.

you always forget selfless daring, which is the ultimate group heal move.
have 1:1 healing power coefficient and can be performed on relatively low CD up to two times in a row.

this single trait (with vigorous precision in the same tree) make guardian much better group healer and utilize healing power much better than elementalist.

Lalangamena.3694:

you always forget selfless daring, which is the ultimate group heal move.
have 1:1 healing power coefficient and can be performed on relatively low CD up to two times in a row.

this single trait (with vigorous precision in the same tree) make guardian much better group healer and utilize healing power much better than elementalist.

Yeah, exactly.
I use mace+ shield/focus as secondary weapon set, the shield/focus with sigil that restore 50% endurance on weapon swap, mace with sigil that refills full endurance on kill. I gain incredible amount of energy for a lot of dodge-heals.

Added a couple new skills to my original post before the wiki crashed.

AH really is a huge bonus to our self-healing capabilities.

How does regen work with boon duration bonuses? If you have +30% boon duration, does it mean your regen’s heal for 30% more or do they pulse an extra time?

It just means the regen boon lasts 30% longer – so how many extra ticks can complete within the additional time.

Tarsius.3170:

It just means the regen boon lasts 30% longer – so how many extra ticks can complete within the additional time.

So if you have 30% bonus and it’s a 6 second regen it’ll be 7.8 seconds instead and pulse every 1s?

I thought it would be 8 seconds. As far as I’m aware, +boon duration stacks additively. Right? If that were the case, you’d get two extra ticks of regeneration.

All boon (and condition) durations are calculated accurately to a very fine degree; they are not rounded to the nearest second or quarter second (unlike what the tooltips often show). So 30% bonus on a 6 second regen = 7.8 s regen (6 * 1.3). However it will only tick 7 times (one more tick than the unbuffed regen), because regen ticks only every second. Essentially the extra 0.8 seconds is wasted.

Oh of course! My mistake, for some reason I was treating it as 33.33333%
It’s been a long day…

This is based on the wiki skill descriptions. I’ve exclude all regeneration applying utility skills and just included regeneration as its own group.

I’ve left merciful intervention and sanctuary off because I couldn’t find data on how they scaled with healing power. Growth calc is simple (end/beg-1).

I did this quickly on my lunch break, so check for errors…

edit: assumed no trait bonuses, just HP increase.