Guild Wars 2

Hello all.

So i got my Guardian to lvl 78 and i started to think about “end game”. I know im going to focus mostly on WvW since i never been a pve fan. But i realy find guardian lacking in WvW.

Im not saying im useless in WvW, but when i play my Necro alt (lvl 30) i feel that i bring so much more to the battle. Since WvW mostly is Zerg Vs Door i find it realy hard to feel meaningfull when i play on my guardian, sure i jump down and place my Wall and hit hammer 2 before run back into the door on defending a keep. But its realy risky and if the enemy is awake im often getting focus downed.

The lack of a “real” ranged weapon realy buggs me, most of the time i find my self rolling on the keep walls to heal and buff my team mates, while on my necro i can bring good ranged aoe dmg to the fight. Or standing behind the door spamming Staff 1. (Boooooring)

I realy dont like the staff to much since staff 2 is bugged and cant be used most of the time and i just refuce to use the scepter since i cant stand the slow orb speed and the low dmg aoe dot on skill 2.

I enjoy playing Guardian and this is the class i felt in love with at the first day, but in WvW i just feel that my lvl 30 necro with alot bugged skills and traits bring so much more to the fight.

I run with a Crithammer build, have tried a few other build but i always come back to this build. Do you guys have this problem, do you have any advice for me?

Since ur tought about WvW is “bashing doors” with aoe in a safe position, well…
reroll a ranger/elementalist, otherwise maybe guardian don’t fit ur own gameplay.
I’m fine using my guardian at WvW in every builds actually.

As I understand it Tome of Wrath is really good for keep defense. Might want to give that a try, I’m not experienced myself so I don’t know much beyond that.

Larger symbols so you get protection on the guys bashing at the door.

Staff for heals and dps and ofc spamming at the door and whats behind it

Scepter for placing aoe on the wall to push their ranged back

Retaliation on the team thats gets focused

In zerg versus zerg, teleport in the middle and set up RoW and let your party place stacked aoe on your position.

Line of warding to split up packs of enemies

skill one on staff and 10 stacks of might to put aoe on the frontline

Aoe stability*3

And the list goes on.

I actually like my guardian in WvW. I’ll admit that the biggest weakness is the lack of a true ranged weapon. (when we try to destroy a wall/door, I feel less useful indeed).

However, I simply change my approach in these moments. I generally use Tome of Wrath to defend from a wall or to damage opponents on walls to make up for my lack of range.

Besides that, I use a pretty basic GS+Staff. I adore the greatsword and its invaluable fifth skill that pulls players towards you, just as I love the staff for the speed bonus and wall. (and big might is great as well and heals me quite a bit with Altruistic Healing)

As utility skills, I mainly use retreat and save yourselves, although I must admit I have not experimented much with my other skills.

As someone who also made a necro and liked the spreading of conditions, I prefer Guardian. It simply fits my idea of a character more. I couldn’t relate to my necromancer that much.

I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Just experiment and stick with the builds/characters you enjoy.

Good luck!
Cathaír

Idk, I feel like we have other options. If you are a keep wrecker type person, it’s harder to see our use in wvw since most of the time is spent taking down the door however at camps, we rock. Every camp I raided, I always did the intial charge and brought the small militia in after causing chaos. And we do have the scepter…but it kinda sucks. Anyways, what I’m saying is that if you want to help out in wvw, use staff and empower the ppl around you, use virtues, use tomes. If you just want to break the door down with your own strength, get lots of health and toughness, and do as much as you can before retreating. If you just wanna play it safe and break stuff then another class may be better for you (and this is all in regards to door breaking on keeps). Heck you can be a arrow cart master too to help. But it really depends on your wants.

Best.

I dont see W3 at all like you described. I love to play Guardian but I dont stay on walls, I go to the front lines and pow pow. Guardian will never be a range damage profession, so If you looking for this mind as well play with your Necro. Guardians are melee and buff/support. I always find ground fights in W3 and Tome of Wrath is very good AoE if you really need it.

Disagree. We have a ton of amazing gap closers, two of which are blinks and super hard to dodge. We have some snares, an aoe knock down pull, 2 aoe knock downs and a trap on hammer, we have a huge variety of speed buff sources as well as slow/snare removal (also these are mostly for groups not just single target). Then we also have things like spirit weapons, the hammer is one knock down or trait it and get more.

With a guardian you just take a slightly different approach than most classes and when you combine a guardian with another class, (ie. not rolling solo every second of the game) we become very powerful and pretty much impossible to peel.

The biggest thing tho, if every class had amazing snares and roots or things like fears this game would just get ridiculous. Some variety is good to keep things interesting and to help not make it so basically every fight everyone is moving 50% slower from all the snares. It also helps with things like making single target focusing not so completely ridiculous.

Ocelot.3148
Wel it is often. I Work night time and therefor i play often “alone” since friends and guildmates are sleeping. Sure i play assault group that roams around, and there is guardian ok. But like you i cant play with guildmates/friends each time i play wvw.

Webba.3071
Yeah ToW is good, but its on a long CD and waiting for the CD each time you “need” it.