Guild Wars 2

The build editor http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJARBkYfoyWGqqAA-TpgAgAw7PA8EAAA says that 2 in zeal, supreme justice, bal rune and smoldering sigil should give me 2s worth of Passive burns.

However that no longer (if it ever did) applies. Supreme Justice states “Virtue of Justice causes burning more frequently. When activating Virtue of Justice, the burn duration is increased.” In game, this doesn’t effect passive VoJ.

I strongly think VoJ’s passive should be considered “Activated” so it can receive Supreme Justice’s 25% duration buff.

>>"…When activating Virtue of Justice, the burn duration is increased"

If you carefully read it it never said it would increase the passive duration. With the set up you have above you would only reach 75% of Burning Duration. You would need Radiant Fire to reach a maximum 100%.

It should.

It also should be merged with permeating wrath and then make it adept. Then it’d be almost not crappy.

I don’t think so. That would make alot of things went from day to night.

But I do think Virtue need some serious look into. As it is now, we need to trait like 3 TIMES to make all 3 Virtues look decent. The only good thing we have now is Inspired Virtue.

If you have another source of burning to start the fight with and you can strike rapidly (Whirling Wrath, for example), you can almost treat Supreme Justice as a 67% increase in duration for the passive of the burn.

The passive proccing more rapidly gives it greater uptime, and since burning stacks in duration a little bit of a starter burn from yourself or a teammate (Even 4 seconds would do) makes it so the 75% boosted duration planned from other equipment / traits is still fully effective.

Honestly there are allot of guardian traits, especially in the virtues line that could really use fixes.

Some are just plain under powered, some are very under powered & some make you wonder WTF were they thinking when they made this.

That’s a 1/4 duration shy from another full burn tick. A small change of supreme justice wont break the guardian;
It won’t be a night and day difference considering whirl + other dmg hits = perma burn if not cleansed anyways.

It’s an increase of 25% to VoJ passive Only. That’s about an 1800-3k (depending on cleanses) more burn damage in a 30s fight. If you survive that long. Most burns stacks together when bursting with whirl and symbols and gets cleansed pretty quickly until a new proc appears. It’s the proc in between cleanses that counts most, further closing the sustain lost in between procs and cleanses.

I don’t see why this small change shouldn’t be added.

I was running 6/1/6/0/1.

Balthazar runes and sigil of smoldering got me to 2 sec from the burn on block. So +100% burn duration.

Saiyan.1704:

That’s a 1/4 duration shy from another full burn tick. A small change of supreme justice wont break the guardian;
It won’t be a night and day difference considering whirl + other dmg hits = perma burn if not cleansed anyways.

It’s an increase of 25% to VoJ passive Only. That’s about an 1800-3k (depending on cleanses) more burn damage in a 30s fight. If you survive that long. Most burns stacks together when bursting with whirl and symbols and gets cleansed pretty quickly until a new proc appears. It’s the proc in between cleanses that counts most, further closing the sustain lost in between procs and cleanses.

I don’t see why this small change shouldn’t be added.

You can debate this till the end of days but your forgetting one simple fact.

In the majority of fights the guardians burns won’t even matter at all because other people with more + condition damage will apply burns that override the guardians thus pushing them in the back seat where they will rarely if ever tick.

While I agree that there are a ton of traits for the guardian that are utter crap I would much rather they find a way to fix the way burning & poison scale because the current implementation is horrible & effects everyone.

Relentliss.2170:

I was running 6/1/6/0/1.

Balthazar runes and sigil of smoldering got me to 2 sec from the burn on block. So +100% burn duration.

Correction, that’s only 95% increased burn duration. The tooltip rounds up if you’re 10% away from 100%, saying you have 2s worth of burning but you don’t.
With that build a single burn block will only tick once in spite the tooltips.

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

You can debate this till the end of days but your forgetting one simple fact.

In the majority of fights the guardians burns won’t even matter at all because other people with more + condition damage will apply burns that override the guardians thus pushing them in the back seat where they will rarely if ever tick.

Only if that class’s burn damage is higher than 800, which is the average damage when traited Amplified Wrath. Otherwise, yes you’re right.