Guild Wars 2

Because as it is now, it feels all over the place (I’ve read similiar feelings towards the traits on other forums).

To be honest, the Guardians trait lines are putting me off the Guardian, simply because everything feels like they are slotted in random places and it is hard to make a decent build.

I don’t know how long I’ve wasted just looking at the traits trying to figure a build out. I’ve stopped ingame after doing some random events then think “I’ll take another look at the traits” next thing I know 20 minutes have passed and I’ve still not decided on anything.

I’ve played around a bit with other classes and had a look at their traits and their trait lines seem to be more clear where you can see what leads to what. As for the Guardian, I’m always left thinking “Oh I could go for # in Trait A oh but that might go well with Trait D but that needs ##, although Trait C has something that trait D that might synergise with but that would require ##”

I was wondering if the devs have had this feedback and may have thought of considering reslotting various trait lines in the Guardian traits to make things ‘flow’ better.

I disagree for the most part, however Zeal seems completely messed up and some traits are a bit random.

Really, you just have to identify which traits are worth your while in each line and make a decision. The Guardian traits have a bit of a learning curve, but you’re asking for them to be simplified for convenience rather than for balance.

For me, I go 0/20/10/30/10.

20 points in Radiance for two Signet traits and 200 Precision; 10 points in Valor for 5% toughness being added to Precision and for the +10% critical damage; 30 points in Honor for increased Symbol duration/size and 2h Mastery for my hammer, with +300 Vitality to make up for my offensive based build; 10 points into Virtues to get the additonal boons from Virtue activation and to get 25% longer Retaliation.

It’s no secret Guardian have trait issues, Zeal being useless and most T3s being a mere nuisance.
We get 3 good builds basically, everything else being “meh”.

I believe most Guardians still need to understand and learn the class mechanics tho, so this might be queued when we get to a point where all Guards know what we need and lack.

I agree, the traits need to be reworked, or at least reallocated. Almost all the good stuff is in Honor, like Big Symbols, Symbol Duration, 2h Weapon cooldown reduction, Shout cooldown reduction etc.

Personally i find the traits to be fine. The issues i run into isent in the traits but the gear we need to make the guardian work properly is a pain to find for the proper combination to get the build working.

Groonz.7825:

Because as it is now, it feels all over the place (I’ve read similiar feelings towards the traits on other forums).

To be honest, the Guardians trait lines are putting me off the Guardian, simply because everything feels like they are slotted in random places and it is hard to make a decent build.
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I was wondering if the devs have had this feedback and may have thought of considering reslotting various trait lines in the Guardian traits to make things ‘flow’ better.

Great post. I could not agree more. This is yet another way in which the Guardian is a mess.

Noooo!

The traits are perfectly fine if you think like this. They shouldn’t be “I only need this and that for it to work”.

If you’re thinking like that it means you have plenty of choices and build to do, you can either focus on something, or get somewhere in between, or just look for something that fits perfectly for your playstyle.

For example I like Sword & Shields on my Guardian, as well as Greatswords and Staves. But the best 1H Traits are on Radiance, the best Shield are on Valor, the best 2H are on Zeal and Honor.
So I opted to focus on 2Hs but I still do decent with my Sword/Shield.

Having everything in a linear and clear way would make some builds a must since they’ll be obviously better than others, not to say there isn’t something like this right now, but we get more choices.