So am I the only one that has gleaned that Jon Peter’s two favorite classes are ele and thief?
Where is the discussion on guards? He has managed to discuss most classes so far, but guards seem to be the ones that they have completely ignored. They nerf our mobility (and yes it is a nerf since no guard is ever going to stop running to sit in their symbol of swiftness). I seriously feel like they give a precursory glance to guards during testing then return to their eles and thieves to play around with all the fun new stuff they are getting. All the feedback they got from people that main guard talked about how they are unhappy with this, and yet while they go back and forth with discussion with other classes they completely ignore us.
I’m trying to be respectful here, as I know you guys are busy, but you have to see it from our point of view. You propose changes to all of the classes and ask for feedback. Every class gives feedback. You respond to feedback from every class except for your guardians (yes barring the two posts you made trying to defend that your nerf of our speed was in fact a buff if we just be patient and stand in a circle waiting to be ganked). From our point of view we are the least loved class that gets the least attention, and it is exceedingly frustrating. I kind of feel like the red-headed step child….
Can we please get some real responses from you guys around a class other than ele or thief? We are angered by the proposed changes, and yet no one is trying to explain or discuss with us like the other classes.
So am I the only one that has gleaned that Jon Peter’s two favorite classes are ele and thief?
You can’t really use the frequency of posts to determine “dev favourites”. All it really shows is that some professions have been much more broken than others and have required much more dev attention.
The Guardian has always been a profession that broadly “works” – which can be an achilles heal [sic] because it promotes stagnation.
Professions like the Ranger have had broken core mechanics since day 1, which is why they top the “charts”:
Number of dev posts per profession
No.
Location
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112
/forum/professions/ranger
71
/forum/professions/necromancer
67
/forum/professions/thief
63
/forum/professions/elementalist
49
/forum/professions/engineer
37
/forum/professions/warrior
34
/forum/professions/mesmer
22
/forum/professions/guardian
If you look over the past few months only, then the mesmer is last with guard and warrior ( the poster child ) tied for second place.
Sadly, there’s a lot of vitriol in these forums lately and a lot of the useful and constructive player feedback gets irrevocably lost in it.
Not only are they nearly ignoring guards, they’re buffing mesmers. The one class in the game that still has an OP mechanic nobody from Anet has mentioned. At least with the thief they’re trying to make changes to insta-ports and perma-stealth with uber benefits.
Clone on dodge, perma-vigor, and full condi applications from clones, all with only 20 points in Dueling line, hasn’t even been mentioned once.
Edit:
And before anyone gets any ideas, I play almost exclusively warrior. I’ve got engi and necro alts and have played with all classes at 80, but I’m not advocating for/against anything just because I main it. I’m looking objectively here.
I do agree that Guardians are in a good place. here’s the thing though, if the rest of the world around the Guardian changes, where does that leave the Guardian? will we be fine forever and can remain untouched and still be in a good place? fact of the matter is, is that the “meta” and other classes are changing or headed in a direction where the Guardian, as fine as they are on their own at present, is starting to shift and dare i say it, shifting ever so slightly downwards.
Akaimon | Jolly Good Guardian
Akaigi | Warrior Made of Wood
[CDS] – Sanctum of Rall
Guardiand largely speaking work well, are a popular main choice and effective (even essential) in every aspect of the game.
They might have some problems (every class does) but they dont need attention as much as other classes do.
It’s not that they’re paying more attention to other classes, it’s that they’re ignoring what we’re saying here on the forums. They come to us with a SoS change, we reply saying that the change isn’t good or could be done in another way (with requests for soft CC) but then Anet replies with “maybe 5% more damage on sword really isn’t needed, what do you guys think” then totally disappear. It’s like trying to have a discussion with bulletin board.
Give me the trait “Warrior Sprint” make it 15% extra speed while they’re at it I just want my Guard to be a little faster.
Runes of Speed
I have traveler runes brah and I like them but, I don’t like to be pigeon held to speed runes just because i’m slow. Other classes have mobility traits or speed signets (maybe not mesmer but, they’re fast in combat while Guardians are still slow in combat.) and I think Guards should get something even it’s only a 10% speed buff.
Btw. I noticed you’re in PiNK tell Last of Exile Hi
Guardiand largely speaking work well, are a popular main choice and effective (even essential) in every aspect of the game.
They might have some problems (every class does) but they dont need attention as much as other classes do.
It’s not that they’re paying more attention to other classes, it’s that they’re ignoring what we’re saying here on the forums. They come to us with a SoS change, we reply saying that the change isn’t good or could be done in another way (with requests for soft CC) but then Anet replies with “maybe 5% more damage on sword really isn’t needed, what do you guys think” then totally disappear. It’s like trying to have a discussion with bulletin board.
Nicely said. I was also surprised that there is no discussion about SoS even it raised huge wave of negative feedbacks, and some positive too to be fair. And we didnt even got any explenation why it has to be nerfed.
Now it looks like: Hey we want to change SoS. You can provide us feedbacks but we will do it no matter you say. Even if your reasons are valid. We want to do it and that is important. And by the way what do you think about 5% Dmg boost? Do you need it?
MAybe i am wrong and balance team has huge disscusion about guardian and SoS right now. I just said how it looks like now. And it really does.
They ignore what everyone say on the forums.. rangers have been asking for pet AI changes, signet changes, power-based buffs and a whole load of things since day one, and every patch all ANet does is find things we didnt even know were wrong to patch instead.
Sometimes we get good patches for sure, but its never ever ever what we actually ask for or really even considered.
Cufufalating – Ranger / Part-Time Mesmer
Gunnar’s Hold
