Litany of wrath... What ya think?
It’s a mix of the skill not being quite there and losing too much by not taking shelter.
not instant cast like all meditations.
i would run a quad meditation build if was instant.
with cast time like this i would make it a 16-20 seconds recharge when traited.
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The skill has too high risk compared to the reward.
For the skill to be on par with Shelter, the percentage of dmg converted has to be a decent amount higher. Since your opponent can potentially make sure you do not receive any additional healing.
I’d have to test it, but imo 33-50% would even seem reasonable.
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not instant cast like all meditations.
i would run a quad meditation build if was instant.with cast time like this i would make it a 16-20 seconds recharge when traited.
Well technically you have only 18 seconds of downtime when traited ( since the effect lasts 6 seconds ).
The extra sustain to a medi build can be quite nice…
Personally I will use it on “all or nothing” burst builds because you can pre-cast it ( avoiding the whole cast time issue ) and use it to deliver your whole attack chain without coming up for air, even against multiple enemies.
The other 98% percent of the time you’ll want shelter or the signet ( in that order )
I’ve tried it you have to get the ability off before your down to half health so you don’t fall low. Lots of times I got it off too late and didn’t have time to regain health. I’d rather run the healing signet or Shelter.
I’ve tried it you have to get the ability off before your down to half health so you don’t fall low. Lots of times I got it off too late and didn’t have time to regain health. I’d rather run the healing signet or Shelter.
This ^.
It’s just not worth using even if fully specced for meditations.
Maybe if they made it instant & boosted the healing %. Something like 30 % would be better.
I’ve always liked this skill, but it’s a bit difficult to use. The main reason is stab. You’re going to need stab if you want to make sure you get the whole duration. However, med builds don’t have it. Sure you could drop one of your meds for SYG, however then you give up another source of healing and fury, so it’s not a good trade off. You could also drop Absolute Resolution for Indomitable Courage, but that’s also a tough decision.
It’s a risk vs. reward skill, however the risk is very high, but so is the reward. So in the end it’s just so much safer to go Shelter.
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not instant cast like all meditations.
i would run a quad meditation build if was instant.with cast time like this i would make it a 16-20 seconds recharge when traited.
Well technically you have only 18 seconds of downtime when traited ( since the effect lasts 6 seconds ).
The extra sustain to a medi build can be quite nice…
Personally I will use it on “all or nothing” burst builds because you can pre-cast it ( avoiding the whole cast time issue ) and use it to deliver your whole attack chain without coming up for air, even against multiple enemies.
The other 98% percent of the time you’ll want shelter or the signet ( in that order )
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ah, very true for some reason tough was like 26-28sec….
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Yeah, I’ve used litany in my medi/burn build just because I wanted a build that used it, but in almost every instance I find that shelter would actually be the superior heal.
If it was instant cast like all other meditations, it would actually work quite well in a medi build. It could be popped mid burst so you wouldn’t have to stop your assault and be interrupted. Shelter is immune to a lot of interruptions since its block covers the entire heal.
Pre-casting it is generally a poor option because you can easily lose the initial heal and the healing from the trait, making it very inefficient. There’s also the fact that a lot of medi builds usually build fairly glassy, so having the counter-burst functionality in shelter can be quite valuable. One could always build tankier, but then the benefits provided by litany will be questionable since you don’t have the damage output required to maximize the healing.
If litany was instant cast, then I think it would be a good trade off for shelter, but from experience I feel that shelter is just so much better in almost every instance.
Just like all the other people said, I would use LoW if it was an instant skill so that I would be able to benefit from its potential. Otherwise, shelter is so good to be sacrificed.
i once did the calculations and if i remember correctly you’d have to do something like 32,000 damage in 6 seconds to heal for similar amounts to the signet.
the percentage is just way too low, imho warrior and guardian heals should have been the other way around.
Defiant Stance works exactly like Mark of Protection from GW1 which would fit perfectly on a guardian.
and Litany of Wrath would fit perfectly in a warrior zerker build, just rename it “Berzerker’s Bloodlust” or something. pop endure pain and this and use 100b = profit!
It needs to be instant cast. Main reason I stopped using it.
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Yeah, it definitely needs to be instant cast. Their excuse for not doing so originally was because they ‘want counterplay’ so that it can be interrupted.
But then there’s healing signet, so I don’t really get that argument.
But then there’s healing signet,
And http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Withdraw
And http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shelter
And http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Merciful_Intervention
But hey, this skill lets you heal for 2k if you do 10k damage in 6 seconds so it is totally OP and needs a cast time to let thieves and necromancers interrupt it.
In facts it is even more OP than shelter as shelter apparently doesn’t need to let thieves and necromancers interrupt it.
All healing skills will be able to be interrupted as per Anet (Signets are use for their trickling health yes, but they still have a cast time on the “main” heal) So, its unfortunate that LoW has that cast time.
However, as per Anet, Burning/conditions is considered part of that damage. You could consider lighting everything on fire, then running away and still get some health. Definitely works slightly better with some conditions to continually tick.
Also, I got something much smaller as the needed damage dealt to equal SoR, but this was without traits and Hpow considered. Regardless, I’d vote for a heal like this to be on a much shorter cd than 30s.
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Litany of wrath is pretty cool for arah P1 entities, afk Brie P1, and malrona.
Yay, I found a use for that thing.
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Littany of Wrath in a nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_dldNoYgk 1st video I got when I typed in “its bad”