Guild Wars 2

Hey guys! I’ve been doing a lot of theorycrafting with Dragonhunter before and during the BWE and I came up with this build.

https://youtu.be/0cBoqivJ8Tc

Here’s the video showing off some awesome kills, sadly I couldn’t get more 1v1’s as I was running out of time on Sunday to record and these were the best kills I manage to nab but I think it stills shows off the power of this build pretty well as the bad guys were dropping like flies!

Did you like the video? I hope so. Here is the build I was running.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJATRlsAhqhYrQwbIwPELxD21+KGkDqCANgCg8/r/tAB-TJBFABiXGQu9HW4SAAwTAAA

Now, I know what you’re thinking. “Wtf, he’s not even using Virtues”

And while I didn’t want to drop that line, in the end I figured it was possible to drop it as I had plenty of condition removal, I didn’t need judge’s intervention since I had range and could just use Stand Your Ground instead, and if I used my Virtues and my Elite right, I wouldn’t feel the lack of reduced recharge on virtues as much. So this is what I got.

It has very nice damage output, good mobility for a guardian with 2 leaps and Traveler runes, and some pretty decent survivability as you still have access to stability, and good condition removal with Smite Condition, Smite on Heal, and CoP and dual energy sigils.

The Zeal and Dragonhunter lines give me some fantastic damage modifiers, however, you can probably run Hunter’s Determination instead of Zealot’s Aggression and get some extra access to Aegis as you won’t have your enemy crippled too often. Either one would be fine, I think but for the BWE, I chose to go with Zealot’s Aggression instead.

Basics to this build are basically to lasso your enemy with Spear of Justice and bait them into your True Shots as well as Immob them with your Wings of Virtue to get off some nasty Whirling Wrath’s but you can obviously mix things up and immob them into your symbol of energy or symbol of wrath as they cause burning which activate your 7% damage modifier on burning enemies.

Anyway, I know it seems a little unconventional but it works. I honestly didn’t feel the lack of virtues too much and this was the most fun I’ve had on Guardian in a looooong time. I might try to come up with a Longbow Burn guardian as well but maybe after HoT launches.

is that a new versio of aberbow ranger?
idont see how medi gurd with bow is anew aspect of gurd

Yeah basically. I consider it a much more fun and cool version of Longbow/Greatsword ranger, tbh xD

I personally had a ton of fun with it though. It’s the range capabilities I always wanted on Guardian.

Its fun but its no that good, you see you are on the verge of dying everytime, it’s blind luck for you to survive and lack of their skill to kill you.

Ragnarox.9601:

Its fun but its no that good, you see you are on the verge of dying everytime, it’s blind luck for you to survive and lack of their skill to kill you.

Pretty sure I had a major advantage against both eles I fought 1v1 and even with the warrior, I still had my elite up and only went down to 5k thanks to his dodge roll+retaliation from finishing him off.

Against the necro+condi ranger 2v2, I would have killed the necro much sooner had the ranger not respawned, despite being condi bombed, I still managed to recover, down the necro, then go and finish him off. I only took that last major damage thanks to wanting to stomp him.

And in the Revenant+Ele 2v2, I made the mistake of letting the Revenant get his unrelenting assault off on me, when I should have dodged. That was an error on my part, not on the build’s In fact, every time I took a major hit, it was because I made a mistake. The build is pretty solid and running the aegis trap trait would probably make it even better as it would synergize with shattered aegis and cause more damage+give you more blocks.

Thing is though, this build doesn’t allow room for a lot of mistakes but if you play it well, it can do a lot! It’s not as forgiving as an Interrupt Mesmer or Shield Revenant.

I will say though that I wish the auto attack on Longbow was stronger…. It sadly doesnt hit very hard

Rain.9213:

Ragnarox.9601:

Its fun but its no that good, you see you are on the verge of dying everytime, it’s blind luck for you to survive and lack of their skill to kill you.

Pretty sure I had a major advantage against both eles I fought 1v1 and even with the warrior, I still had my elite up and only went down to 5k thanks to his dodge roll+retaliation from finishing him off.

Against the necro+condi ranger 2v2, I would have killed the necro much sooner had the ranger not respawned, despite being condi bombed, I still managed to recover, down the necro, then go and finish him off. I only took that last major damage thanks to wanting to stomp him.

And in the Revenant+Ele 2v2, I made the mistake of letting the Revenant get his unrelenting assault off on me, when I should have dodged. That was an error on my part, not on the build’s In fact, every time I took a major hit, it was because I made a mistake. The build is pretty solid and running the aegis trap trait would probably make it even better as it would synergize with shattered aegis and cause more damage+give you more blocks.

Thing is though, this build doesn’t allow room for a lot of mistakes but if you play it well, it can do a lot! It’s not as forgiving as an Interrupt Mesmer or Shield Revenant.

I will say though that I wish the auto attack on Longbow was stronger…. It sadly doesnt hit very hard

I fought with some kitten good revenants…they were pain in the butt. I liked DH too but it feels like I need to put 50% more effort and skill than my vanilla guardian. It needs few tweaks and buffs and It could be very good. especially if they give 25% movement speed for wearing LB.

Ragnarox.9601:

Rain.9213:

Ragnarox.9601:

Its fun but its no that good, you see you are on the verge of dying everytime, it’s blind luck for you to survive and lack of their skill to kill you.

Pretty sure I had a major advantage against both eles I fought 1v1 and even with the warrior, I still had my elite up and only went down to 5k thanks to his dodge roll+retaliation from finishing him off.

Against the necro+condi ranger 2v2, I would have killed the necro much sooner had the ranger not respawned, despite being condi bombed, I still managed to recover, down the necro, then go and finish him off. I only took that last major damage thanks to wanting to stomp him.

And in the Revenant+Ele 2v2, I made the mistake of letting the Revenant get his unrelenting assault off on me, when I should have dodged. That was an error on my part, not on the build’s In fact, every time I took a major hit, it was because I made a mistake. The build is pretty solid and running the aegis trap trait would probably make it even better as it would synergize with shattered aegis and cause more damage+give you more blocks.

Thing is though, this build doesn’t allow room for a lot of mistakes but if you play it well, it can do a lot! It’s not as forgiving as an Interrupt Mesmer or Shield Revenant.

I will say though that I wish the auto attack on Longbow was stronger…. It sadly doesnt hit very hard

I fought with some kitten good revenants…they were pain in the butt. I liked DH too but it feels like I need to put 50% more effort and skill than my vanilla guardian. It needs few tweaks and buffs and It could be very good. especially if they give 25% movement speed for wearing LB.

Man, if they give 25% movement speed to Dragonhunter… oh boy, it’s gonna really shine. I could take out those annoying Traveler Runes and run some Runes of the Scholar, Runes of Rage(for the extra damage with fury), or even Runes of the Flame Legion for the extra 7% damage to burning enemies.

Please, Karl? I’ve been a good boy this year.

So glad I’m seeing a few more DH vids this time around! Great vid.
On a completely unrelated note, I loved the song, but I couldn’t stop thinking how similar it sounded to another song from a game I love, you be the judge :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeeCdCSMQg

Vennyhedgie.5369:

So glad I’m seeing a few more DH vids this time around! Great vid.
On a completely unrelated note, I loved the song, but I couldn’t stop thinking how similar it sounded to another song from a game I love, you be the judge :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeeCdCSMQg

There are definitely a lot of similarities to both songs. I didn’t know Bayonetta had such a fantastic soundtrack though! I’m gonna have to look into it

Also, while I can understand some of the hate Dragonhunter is getting, I have to admit I’m kinda more excited about it than I am excited about Reaper. While I do think Dragonhunter does need a bit more tweaking, for me it did add a new playstyle to Guardian that wasn’t there before.

Rain.9213:

Vennyhedgie.5369:

So glad I’m seeing a few more DH vids this time around! Great vid.
On a completely unrelated note, I loved the song, but I couldn’t stop thinking how similar it sounded to another song from a game I love, you be the judge :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeeCdCSMQg

There are definitely a lot of similarities to both songs. I didn’t know Bayonetta had such a fantastic soundtrack though! I’m gonna have to look into it

Also, while I can understand some of the hate Dragonhunter is getting, I have to admit I’m kinda more excited about it than I am excited about Reaper. While I do think Dragonhunter does need a bit more tweaking, for me it did add a new playstyle to Guardian that wasn’t there before.

I think DH got a lot better from bwe 2 to 3 and a lot of people haven’t tried the changes yet which is why they’re left with a bad impression. Reaper is still amazing as always though!

PS: both Bayonetta games have absolutely amazing soundracks, I recommend you check both of them!

Your build is exactly what I ran, with some variants in Utilities. I absolutely loved the spec and felt that it had a good balance of burst vs sustain through Monk’s Focus. If DH ended up getting that 25% speed boost that everyone keeps asking for, would you suggest any alternative Runes?

ARVY.3069:

Your build is exactly what I ran, with some variants in Utilities. I absolutely loved the spec and felt that it had a good balance of burst vs sustain through Monk’s Focus. If DH ended up getting that 25% speed boost that everyone keeps asking for, would you suggest any alternative Runes?

“Runes of the Scholar, Runes of Rage(for the extra damage with fury), or even Runes of the Flame Legion”

As I mentioned in a previous reply

Scholar would be awesome for long range dps from the side in a group fight, Rage would let you burst a bit harder right after using a meditation, and Flame Legion would give you a total of 24% increased damage on an enemy if you land the spear of Justice as it would apply burning to them repeatedly and work in conjunction with Fiery Wrath in Zeal and Big Game Hunter in the DH traitline.

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

or Runes of Lyssa if you feel like you’re having trouble with Condi builds.

ARVY.3069:

Your build is exactly what I ran, with some variants in Utilities. I absolutely loved the spec and felt that it had a good balance of burst vs sustain through Monk’s Focus. If DH ended up getting that 25% speed boost that everyone keeps asking for, would you suggest any alternative Runes?

I already mentioned this in another topic:
I was using traveler runes for the movement speed in wvw, but if we ever got that buff on traits, I’d definitely pick runes of rage. You really need that extra precision, you really want to make sure all those true shots crit, otherwise you’ll lose most of your damage. The auto attack also crits for a decent amount (over 2k).

Rain.9213:

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

This is genius. I’m gonna get a kick out of this xD

Vennyhedgie.5369:

Rain.9213:

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

This is genius. I’m gonna get a kick out of this xD

Yeah and after some calcs, it seems like Ogre might be the best for this spec as you get a flat 4% damage boost, 2% increased crit damage, and a dog to help dps While Rage and Flame Legion runes are situational.

Rain.9213:

Vennyhedgie.5369:

Rain.9213:

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

This is genius. I’m gonna get a kick out of this xD

Yeah and after some calcs, it seems like Ogre might be the best for this spec as you get a flat 4% damage boost, 2% increased crit damage, and a dog to help dps While Rage and Flame Legion runes are situational.

The crit dmg is actually 3%!
I’ve actually never used the rune set myself, although I’ve seen a lot of people use it. Do you know how much damage the rock dog does?

Rain.9213:

ARVY.3069:

Your build is exactly what I ran, with some variants in Utilities. I absolutely loved the spec and felt that it had a good balance of burst vs sustain through Monk’s Focus. If DH ended up getting that 25% speed boost that everyone keeps asking for, would you suggest any alternative Runes?

“Runes of the Scholar, Runes of Rage(for the extra damage with fury), or even Runes of the Flame Legion”

As I mentioned in a previous reply

Scholar would be awesome for long range dps from the side in a group fight, Rage would let you burst a bit harder right after using a meditation, and Flame Legion would give you a total of 24% increased damage on an enemy if you land the spear of Justice as it would apply burning to them repeatedly and work in conjunction with Fiery Wrath in Zeal and Big Game Hunter in the DH traitline.

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

or Runes of Lyssa if you feel like you’re having trouble with Condi builds.

Awesome, thanks for the info! Sorry, I must have overlooked the previous reply, but I appreciate the repeat answer I definitely look forward to trying these once HoT releases.

I’m curious: did any of you feel Sigil of Rage was beneficial on the LB? I kind of liked the spontaneous nearly-instant True Shot that comes with the random quickness. It was so satisfying to pull off, but I’m sure it’s not the best for consistent damage.

ARVY.3069:

Rain.9213:

ARVY.3069:

Your build is exactly what I ran, with some variants in Utilities. I absolutely loved the spec and felt that it had a good balance of burst vs sustain through Monk’s Focus. If DH ended up getting that 25% speed boost that everyone keeps asking for, would you suggest any alternative Runes?

“Runes of the Scholar, Runes of Rage(for the extra damage with fury), or even Runes of the Flame Legion”

As I mentioned in a previous reply

Scholar would be awesome for long range dps from the side in a group fight, Rage would let you burst a bit harder right after using a meditation, and Flame Legion would give you a total of 24% increased damage on an enemy if you land the spear of Justice as it would apply burning to them repeatedly and work in conjunction with Fiery Wrath in Zeal and Big Game Hunter in the DH traitline.

You can also run Runes of the Ogre for a 4% damage modifier and to be a wannabe Ranger with the Rock Dog spawn xD

or Runes of Lyssa if you feel like you’re having trouble with Condi builds.

Awesome, thanks for the info! Sorry, I must have overlooked the previous reply, but I appreciate the repeat answer I definitely look forward to trying these once HoT releases.

I’m curious: did any of you feel Sigil of Rage was beneficial on the LB? I kind of liked the spontaneous nearly-instant True Shot that comes with the random quickness. It was so satisfying to pull off, but I’m sure it’s not the best for consistent damage.

Sigil of Rage is too unreliable imo. Though it could have some viability with quickness builds on Thief and Warrior, maybe Revenant. All my experience with Sigil of Rage has been negative though but maybe I just don’t know how to use it right.