Guild Wars 2

Hi all,

As the title says, i am asking you info on a successful “Burning” build, i.e. a build based on that condition, centered on WvW, that brings fire and torment on your enemies, and, if someone has already tried it, how successful it was/is.

I have some experience on the field, and i can put up a “starting build”, but i would like to have “first-hand” impressions from people who tried that and succeeded… or failed.

Thanks in advance for all the help you will give me.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQJARWlYg672FSMEgIFRmCRWSrHEUgFsqQ8uKQRA;TYAKeMyIkxGmjHZYA

Get on top of a keep wall.
Drop of Wall Reflection and Hallowed Ground.
Virtue Spam F1 F2 F3
Save Yourselves!
Elite Tome of Wrath
Zealot’s Fervour
Hit them Hard!
Feel my Wrath!
Feel my Wrath!
Feel my Wrath!
Feel my Wrath!
Feel my Wrath!

wouldn’t you need ground targeting for consecrations for that strategy to work?

Burning doesn’t deal enough damage by itself to make it worthwhile to center a build around it. Especially when you consider that it doesn’t stack very well with Burning applied by other people.

Good starting point, but it would need 30 Virtues to pull it off (need ground Targeting for Consecrations). Will pull off Valor, as i don’t think i will stack Toughness in this build.

The signet enhancer aren’t needed in a one-signet build Imho.

I made some adjustments to the weapons (Sword/torch and Staff to get Empower before or instead of the combo).

Put Sigil of Smoldering on the Weapons, so i can throw burning even when not on the walls and elite is in cooldown.

Net result:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQNAsfWlYg672FSMEg4ER2jRKySa9QgA0fVFiHA;TEBAzypESJlSNlSKKeMyIkxGmjHZYLBGCcE4JwcBA

Any other suggestions to improve? Scepter instead of Sword, maybe?

Morelia.6835:

Burning doesn’t deal enough damage by itself to make it worthwhile to center a build around it. Especially when you consider that it doesn’t stack very well with Burning applied by other people.

According to this source , Burning stacks in duration, and the most recent effect must wait for the less recent to expire. So, no worries about Burning overwritten or not applied. It will be applied in full and for full duration.

As for the damage, is (8 + (4 * Level) + (0.25 * Condition Damage) per second). In the editor i see 1723 condition damage (that’s a bit off, because is not considering armor nor jewels).

So it is 758,75 DPS (plus whatever damage the skill is doing) over a course of several seconds (we have +45% burning duration). And that’s not adding the various plusses from traits.

It’s that all? I would have expected a bit more.
Oh, utility #3 is not Hallowed Ground (doesn’t burn), it’s Purging Flames.

I have a build based on burning, its 30/30/0/0/10 the burning itself does not really do the damage but it boosts it through traits, i use fiery wrath, greatsword power, and shattered aegis on zeal, on radiance i use blind exposure, searing flame, and simmering defense, and then on virtues i got master of concecration, my utilitys are retreat to give everyone aegis and because of shattered aegis thats up to five chances to burn then i use purging flame and judges intervention to do more burn, and because of the traits you can hit up to 25% or more extra damage to burning foes

I need to run some tests in WvW to be sure, but if my calculations are right, i think i will have to abandon this idea..

I have a build, but I don’t want you to have it. :P

Oh right. A build that focuses around one condition will do well in sPVP amrite?
Tome of Wrath spam works cause it still does raw damage on top of the burning and the duration is short enough that cleansing is meaningless in high number situation. Even in Dungeon, I hesitate to use it, cause it blocks all usage of utility slot for 20 seconds.

If we’re talking Dungeon running with burn as primary dps, yeah. It could work. But if you have an elementalist in the group, spamming burns – then you start to question why even base your build around it in the first place? There are so much better stuff that Guardians can perform at.

I’ve got two level 80 Guards, and I’ve specifically speced into a burn gimmick build on one of them. Greatsword, Scepter, Torch. I’ve got almost full exotic sets, main stats are Power,Toughness, and Precision, and secondary stat being Crit Damage(Chest piece power/Vit/Toughness). So i average around 16.1k HP.Running Traits 30-20-10-10-0. Running Superior Rune of Flame Legion Set on my current armor, and Sigil of Fire.

Currently having burning applied to enemies I deal a extra 15% damage. On top of the 38% crit Damage I have through Accessories. Since there aren’t that many good traits in Zeal i just grab the 5% for using Greatsword trait, and depending of the situation, switch between “Zealous Blade”(mostly for PVE), or “Revenge of the Fallen”. With this build I spike my damage from around 1k Autos to 2k, and 4k-7k Whirls. Utilities I use are JI, and “Save Yourselves!” And situational slot, but currently Judgement Signet for me to help soften blows.

Though just like anyone else if you go WvW, you’ll just get gibbed on sight if you’re a straggler, since Guards lack mobility beside offensive gap closers and semi long CD Shouts(“Save Yourselves!” “Retreat!”)

I have seen an interesting burning build in WvW once. It’s a melee build that uses permeating wrath and supreme justice with a greatsword+staff setup. The guy running it was pretty durable – mostly likely with an altruistic healing and bunker gear. He used save yourselves and purging flames (for the fire combo field), and had huge burning durations on everybody when he was fighting against a group.

Not sure how effective it is, but I kind of want to try it.

Burning isn’t a condition that draws out removal. It is however pressure. Adding damage to what is already occuring.

People save removal for things that really hurt. Like max stacked bleed or immobilize/confusion.

I’d probably try to use something like this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNArfRlYgiDXGyLEg4ERWhRa9ggI0fXPcIFZIA;T0AAzynEOJdS9kyJqsMZJyymlLLZWjMA .

I feel its burn centric, but it won’t be the only thing you do, given the AH, stacks of might on crit, a tad of range and aoe, and anything else you can manage to mess around with.

The sigils/runes/weaps (besides Sigil of Strength) are up for grabs, but even without the Honor might stacking trait, you can still stack might (adding power and condi dmg), heal yourself from it, deal a lot of heavy hitting crits (205%dmg 68% of the time) and you’ve got 3k toughness still. Has 1k condi dmg base, which is more than enough to have burns hit for 600+

I’ve had some success in PvE with something similar, in situations similar to a wvw zerg, but that’s all I can give you for first hand experience.