Guild Wars 2

So I’ve recently started using the scepter and it’s more fun than I had anticipated. Anyways I was looking for a pvp build using the scepter and preferably not using a GS at all ( I think it’s over used ) also what is scepter good with and is it only for DPS? Lastly does scepter do well in pve?

I wouldn’t use sceptre if I were you. The day you fight someone who presses A and D (strafing) over and over, you will regret making a sceptre guardian.

I FINALLY fought one about a week ago and thought… “I wonder if this still works.” Yep, it still works. I felt really bad about it since he eventually just left the fight entirely.

That’s a shame, I got the really cool flaming scepter that’s the size of a staff and love it’s look! I also find that the scepter skills are quite unique and fun to play around with. I still have 2 questions though:
1) Does anyone know a build that works well with scepter for bunker or DPS ( I thried jax’ builds and they seem a bit different from my taste)
2) Sometimes when I use the scepter 3 people are still moving around, is this a glitch or does the skill for some reason not immobilize like it says it does?

As it tends to be with all weapons (underrated or otherwise), it fits nicely on the right build.

Scepter should be able to work fine. If they’re melee, they’re going to get hit. If they want to stay ranged and strafe dodge all day, smite is on a short cd and should be larger then their strafe. This either forces them to move or get hit. There’s also the immob from skill 3. If needs be you can manually aim the scepter in the middle of their strafe. Between using the orbs and smite to corral them where you want and WoR, you should be able to sit pretty against people for a bit.

Not gonna answer your two other questions but I will give you a build. You can go many different ways with the scepter. But I usually use the classic x/2/6/5/1 build using blinds for the vulnerability, immob on scepter 3, hit scepter 2 and then following up with a GS 3, 2, etc. But since you don’t wanna use the GS, i recommend using sword/x for more mobility. I use zerker ammy and speed runes and I’m having a blast with it. Try it out, see what you like/dislike and modify to your liking. And most importantly, have FUN.

thank you all for the helpful replies! As soon as im out of CoF ill try the aforementioned build

aight so after some experimenting i ended up with this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAre8dlsApcodDxfH8DNR8gY9nWbq8RgL/FE-TJRCwAZOJAw2fAwTAYbZAA

I call it my “Zealot’s Falme” build

I went with those traits as they allow for heavy damage on on burning foes. The reason we dont take any crit boosters besides celestial is because the 15% from one handed and the 20% from meditations. I also ended up swapping shield with scepter instead of sword since the shield creates distance which isnt needed as much with sword as it is with scepter. Lemme know what you guys think!
EDIT!: I noticed my build was lacking against conditions so i swapped “save yourselves” for purging flames http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAre8dlsApcodDxZI8DNR8gY9nWbq8RgL/FE-TJRCwAZOJAw2fAwTAYbZAA

That build will work as long as you’re fighting alongside your teammates. But I would refrain from from trying to cap nodes on your own since you only have 2 condish cleanses. My personal opinion is I would take out the 4 points out of zeal and stick that into virtues for the pf CD reduction and absolute resolve for additional cleanse. And you might wanna consider finding ways to stack might since you have the strength runes but your not fully utilizing them. And my last 2 cents is that when I’m looking at your build all I see that your trying to stack vulnerability but i dont think you’ll survive long enough to get the stomp. Then again, if you can make the build work based on your skills and situation, then by all means go with it. I just don’t think its as optimal as it can be.

good points, id never though of that! much thanks friend, back to the drawing board :P

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApaolDxbI8DRh/Qkj1FTB4cd55HA-TJhFwADOCAAeAAj2fYaZAA

I don’t spend much time looking through the forums so I’ll just list off a few responses you may get.

• Scepter is a really good weapon for damage (due to its huge amount of individual attacks), setting up burst with snares and quickly killing clones and other ai.
• If you don’t know how to land the auto attacks they’re easily kited as mentioned above, learn when to use and not use it correctly and you’ll be better than fine.
• Feel free to change around sigils but unless they were nerfed a few weeks after the sigil update they’re good.
• The reason GS is super common atm is because of the huge, huge buff to sigil of rage and the 2 slot sigils on 2hd weapons. You’ll Always proc rage on WW and that means it will mostly land.
• Focus with Scepter, not with your sword, I shouldn’t have to tell people this when these basic were figured out within one week of beta release.
• 1 in Honour and Virtues is pretty much non-negotiable in pvp.

Anyway the reason this is all outshone by the GS is listed above and every 1v1 duel I played after the sigil update I needed a sword to go with the GS to win. My win rate just went to nearly 100% swapping out the scepter.

pz

Jax.5261:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApaolDxbI8DRh/Qkj1FTB4cd55HA-TJhFwADOCAAeAAj2fYaZAA

I don’t spend much time looking through the forums so I’ll just list off a few responses you may get.

• Scepter is a really good weapon for damage (due to its huge amount of individual attacks), setting up burst with snares and quickly killing clones and other ai.
• If you don’t know how to land the auto attacks they’re easily kited as mentioned above, learn when to use and not use it correctly and you’ll be better than fine.
• Feel free to change around sigils but unless they were nerfed a few weeks after the sigil update they’re good.
• The reason GS is super common atm is because of the huge, huge buff to sigil of rage and the 2 slot sigils on 2hd weapons. You’ll Always proc rage on WW and that means it will mostly land.
• Focus with Scepter, not with your sword, I shouldn’t have to tell people this when these basic were figured out within one week of beta release.
• 1 in Honour and Virtues is pretty much non-negotiable in pvp.

Anyway the reason this is all outshone by the GS is listed above and every 1v1 duel I played after the sigil update I needed a sword to go with the GS to win. My win rate just went to nearly 100% swapping out the scepter.

pz

interesting, cuz i run that same build except running rage on sword since we’re specced so far into it. you definitely sound like you have more success than me.

Moobs.8231:

Jax.5261:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApaolDxbI8DRh/Qkj1FTB4cd55HA-TJhFwADOCAAeAAj2fYaZAA

I don’t spend much time looking through the forums so I’ll just list off a few responses you may get.

• Scepter is a really good weapon for damage (due to its huge amount of individual attacks), setting up burst with snares and quickly killing clones and other ai.
• If you don’t know how to land the auto attacks they’re easily kited as mentioned above, learn when to use and not use it correctly and you’ll be better than fine.
• Feel free to change around sigils but unless they were nerfed a few weeks after the sigil update they’re good.
• The reason GS is super common atm is because of the huge, huge buff to sigil of rage and the 2 slot sigils on 2hd weapons. You’ll Always proc rage on WW and that means it will mostly land.
• Focus with Scepter, not with your sword, I shouldn’t have to tell people this when these basic were figured out within one week of beta release.
• 1 in Honour and Virtues is pretty much non-negotiable in pvp.

Anyway the reason this is all outshone by the GS is listed above and every 1v1 duel I played after the sigil update I needed a sword to go with the GS to win. My win rate just went to nearly 100% swapping out the scepter.

pz

interesting, cuz i run that same build except running rage on sword since we’re specced so far into it. you definitely sound like you have more success than me.

PvP is honestly almost 100% dodging based, mechanically. The better you are at dodging the better you’re going to do, makes more of an impact than build or anything else tbh.

Jax.5261:

Moobs.8231:

Jax.5261:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApaolDxbI8DRh/Qkj1FTB4cd55HA-TJhFwADOCAAeAAj2fYaZAA

I don’t spend much time looking through the forums so I’ll just list off a few responses you may get.

• Scepter is a really good weapon for damage (due to its huge amount of individual attacks), setting up burst with snares and quickly killing clones and other ai.
• If you don’t know how to land the auto attacks they’re easily kited as mentioned above, learn when to use and not use it correctly and you’ll be better than fine.
• Feel free to change around sigils but unless they were nerfed a few weeks after the sigil update they’re good.
• The reason GS is super common atm is because of the huge, huge buff to sigil of rage and the 2 slot sigils on 2hd weapons. You’ll Always proc rage on WW and that means it will mostly land.
• Focus with Scepter, not with your sword, I shouldn’t have to tell people this when these basic were figured out within one week of beta release.
• 1 in Honour and Virtues is pretty much non-negotiable in pvp.

Anyway the reason this is all outshone by the GS is listed above and every 1v1 duel I played after the sigil update I needed a sword to go with the GS to win. My win rate just went to nearly 100% swapping out the scepter.

pz

interesting, cuz i run that same build except running rage on sword since we’re specced so far into it. you definitely sound like you have more success than me.

PvP is honestly almost 100% dodging based, mechanically. The better you are at dodging the better you’re going to do, makes more of an impact than build or anything else tbh.

yeah i know ive been playing pvp on my guard for about 18 months now and about a year on this spec. just feel like it has too many soft counters