Looking for suggestions: Condi Guard

Looking for suggestions: Condi Guard

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

I made this build when fooling around on the website:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApcoNDxbI8DNR8Ql5Y0iW+BvQ1BQC8oA-TZhAwAw2fYcZgOHEgNnAAAPBAA

Main source of burning from Supreme Justice and seems to have very high uptime but i have my doubts:
Are runes and sigils fine? Am i overshooting burning duration?
Besides diamond skin ele, what could possibly counter this build hard?
Could it perform somewhat as good as medi dps meta against some builds or would this be purely yolo?

Before i test it out id like your opinions and improvements on the build.

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Posted by: Aedrion.6483

Aedrion.6483

I’ve been running burning myself and if there’s one must-have it needs then that’s meditations that heal you. You must absolutely go 6 into valor, it also has a trait that applies burning on block, which is pretty great. Without that healing, you’re simply not going to last long enough in a team fight where you get spiked by 2-4 people.

Runes of the krait are also great, to negate the one big weakness your build currently has: lack of cover conditions. Any skill that removes 1-2 conditions has a good chance of removing your burning. And while you have good re-apply-abilities, you just want to make sure that burning is hidden in a row of condis. That way, if they cleanse, it might cleanse something like blind or vulnerabilty or bleeding. And that burning sticks right on them.

If you combine, Krait runes, with sigil of doom x2 and sigil of geomancy x2, you’ll be able to apply bleeding, poison, burning, blind, vulnerabilty, immo and torment. Even celestial eles need to watch out ifyou drop this on them right after they leave water attunement.

My suggestion is, change the traits into 6 1 6 0 1 and equip three meditations – purging flames is great burning so if you want to really use that, go 6 0 6 0 2 – equip doom and geomancy in both weapons and krait runes for constant bleeding. Each bleed lasts for 18 seconds, which is awesome cover for burning.

Don’t forget to use your elite because krait runes apply a big condi bomb on 5 nearby enemies when you use an elite skill.

Good luck!

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Posted by: Shanks.2907

Shanks.2907

Well, my first advice is to roll a better class for dealing conditions. But if you insist, I’ll help round out your build with you.

As Aedrion said, Monk’s Focus is a must for any meditation build. You’re looking at I, II and XII in the Valor line. I would try a 6/2/6/0/0 build with Shimmering Defense in the Radiance line. You’ll get a little extra condition damage, and a huge burn while you’re trying to kite away and heal.

I think the Runes of Balthazar are the best for a guardian condition build, especially without Supreme Justice. You want to save Renewed Focus for defensive purposes, I can’t sign off on using it for a couple stacks of conditions with Krait runes. You’ll still have 2 seconds of burning every five hits, so I think it’s okay to drop the Smoldering sigils and add 2x doom and 2x geomancy sigils. The poison is a must and the bleeds are necessary as you don’t get them anywhere else.

As for counters, you’ll have a really hard time against a survival ranger. Between Empathetic Bond (3 conditions cleansed/10s) and Survival of the Fittest (2 conditions on survival utility) and maybe even Signet of Renewal or Healing Spring they have an immense amount of condition removal. Add high condition application/variety and it’s an uphill fight. Contemplation of Purity is your only real cleanse, so use it only when you’re loaded up. Look out for Entangle and if you get caught teleport out with your sword #2.

You’ll be applying burning so often that you will put in some damage. Your biggest weakness though is your mobility. With no swiftness or 25% movement speed, you’ll get kited quite often. Save your gap closers for when you need them and play smart. If you can, play close to someone who can help give you some swiftness in a team fight.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApaolDxbI8DNR8QZVHUdAkAP61/wMkDA-TJRHwAV2fIwTAAZZAAnEAA

P.S. Smite Condition is really important for sustain in a meditation build. That’s 2k healing every 16s. Even though Purging Flames can burn and cleanse 3 conditions, I would still take Smite Condition over it. You cleanse 1 less condition over 32 seconds but you gain 4k hp.

(edited by Shanks.2907)

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Looks solid on paper, but without a decent source of sustain you’ll flop before you can put out enough damage.

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

I really wanted to try something without meditations. But i guess thats not gonna happen. Build seems to work fine against melees but its very very squishy. Id really be happy if they introduced dire amulet for pvp. But at the moment it looks like my terrormancer is stronger.

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

I really wanted to try something without meditations. But i guess thats not gonna happen. Build seems to work fine against melees but its very very squishy. Id really be happy if they introduced dire amulet for pvp. But at the moment it looks like my terrormancer is stronger.

That’s just the unfortunate state of the class right now. There are no ways to make a viable build currently without going 6 in valor, which is annoying.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

if its a 100% burning duration you looking go
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApcoVDxbI8DNR8QY53blBJX/PnD-TZhAwAw2fgzBBYcZgNnAAAPBAA
you burning will tick 2 sec from F1 passive doing 1310 dmg and you AA will do perma burning so even if they cleanse you put it back up no time

if its more high dmg dps go 6,2,6,0,0 so your burning dps is 800-900 go with flame legion rune for more power and dmg modifier

1v1 you should be able to win most meta build
with group fight you job is to put pressure on the point in pvp so GS is better with its aoe abilities and leap out of the danger zone
in wvw you can go 100% duration with food 6,2,6,0,0 and do wonder while roaming

(edited by messiah.1908)