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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Hey everyone
Well, today I felt like doing some theory crafting, so I was thinking about a Mace/Shield Guardian. I have 2 builds here, WvW and PvE

WvW I mostly roam, so this build would be for that, if it works. Here’s the build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUUQNApeSlUgyC33xKEf4ESmiVCBxegRZUHdpQhkIA-jkyAoLI0WApGg0nAl9KiGb1Vjt8KEpmJiq1LYecMZAM3CA-w

Here I took Honorable Shield so that I can have the knockback and heal faster. Both Sigil of Energy because I too used to play with the heal on dodge. It’s a great minor Trait. I’m not sure if those are the best Runes

PvE Version:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNApeSlYgyC33xKEf4ESmiVCBxeoRfUHdpIheIA-jAyAYLBRCCIVIQJvioxWILiGraBTVSEV7NKiWtMAmbB-e

This build problably works just fine, even though the mace is a slow weapon i will still do damage and I can get pretty good support also. I took Tome of Courage so that If I need some quick team heals, but the other Tome or even Renewed Focus works problably

Now this here is just some quick though’s, so I would like to know if, first of all, is it possible to play this style of game (WvW Roaming mainly) with this weapon set, and if it is how can this build get better.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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roamming on 1vs1 that build is obliterated in few seconds, healing over time do not help if u cant keep your target away from you making him recovering or reseting combat, with those stats its a 2 or 3 seconds combat.

That build is far from being a roamming build reduce the healing and apply on crits with the %boon duration u will be always with boons on wich sometimes can be bad :P, pitty guardian hsa to many countters…

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

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roamming on 1vs1 that build is obliterated in few seconds, healing over time do not help if u cant keep your target away from you making him recovering or reseting combat, with those stats its a 2 or 3 seconds combat.

That build is far from being a roamming build reduce the healing and apply on crits with the %boon duration u will be always with boons on wich sometimes can be bad :P, pitty guardian hsa to many countters…

^QFT
For pve/dungeons and high level melee fotm fights… mace/focus or shield is superb with the right build.

Wvw and pvp you don’t want to ever run mace. Your better off running either sword/torch and scepter/focus or scepter/shield and gs. It depends on your build again.

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

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roamming on 1vs1 that build is obliterated in few seconds, healing over time do not help if u cant keep your target away from you making him recovering or reseting combat, with those stats its a 2 or 3 seconds combat.

That build is far from being a roamming build reduce the healing and apply on crits with the %boon duration u will be always with boons on wich sometimes can be bad :P, pitty guardian hsa to many countters…

^QFT
For pve/dungeons and high level melee fotm fights… mace/focus or shield is superb with the right build.

Wvw and pvp you don’t want to ever run mace. Your better off running either sword/torch and scepter/focus or scepter/shield and gs. It depends on your build again.

Hi

The above folks are correct, I have had similar experiences overall. Although, when we run a guild group in wvw and are short on healing condi removal, 2 of us (guards) will go mace / heal to help out. The spammable mace symbol + whirl finisher in mid combat is actually really poweful, but still does not surpass water field+blast combo.

So it is very situational in group comp and does not perform well while roaming.

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Okay thanks guys
As I never used these 2 weapons all that much I didn’t know if it were possible but now I know it’s not. I guess I’ll continue with my GS and S/F Healway build

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

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If you want to solo roam… Look into a meditation/block/burning using sword/torch and scepter/focus. Shelter, all meditation utilities and renewed focus for skills. When I was using my guard I was in prec/tough/cond dmg armor and trinkets and was downing people just by blocking.

I haven’t been in on my guard since I’ve been on my ele/mes but it was a crazy fun build to use.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

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There are two builds that I’m currently working with that other people posted here in various threads. One is burning and it has potential using sword/torch/GS although I think torch isn’t necessary. There is a good burning build in the sticky up top which explains it.

It is a 10/20/10/0/30 build on condition damage. The problem if truth be told out in WvW (solo or even duo) is who gets first hit. And, what is your skill level. I’m using to playing healaway/clerics so have room to recover from my errors. With either of the DPS builds I’m playing now and I screw up (which is often) then I go down real quick. It isn’t even funny.

Also the targets matter. I was in the EB jp yesterday and ran into a warrior who basically out damaged and out healed me. He/She would have done the same thing I’d wager even if I was in my healing / support set

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

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There are two builds that I’m currently working with that other people posted here in various threads. One is burning and it has potential using sword/torch/GS although I think torch isn’t necessary. There is a good burning build in the sticky up top which explains it.

It is a 10/20/10/0/30 build on condition damage. The problem if truth be told out in WvW (solo or even duo) is who gets first hit. And, what is your skill level. I’m using to playing healaway/clerics so have room to recover from my errors. With either of the DPS builds I’m playing now and I screw up (which is often) then I go down real quick. It isn’t even funny.

Also the targets matter. I was in the EB jp yesterday and ran into a warrior who basically out damaged and out healed me. He/She would have done the same thing I’d wager even if I was in my healing / support set

Yea I know I find that completely absurd that a war can out heal themselves over a guard…

I think one of the best solo roaming builds is the meditation/burning/block build, not sure if there’s one posted but I had my own out together. It had self heals with every meditation, burning on every block with crazy tick amounts, etc. Like I said I didn’t even have to attack ppl and they would down themselves from the constant burning. It was more of a troll fun bunker build.

But as the user above me said just check out the build sticky thread. There’s actually some good ones in this section.

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

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PvE Version:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNApeSlYgyC33xKEf4ESmiVCBxeoRfUHdpIheIA-jAyAYLBRCCIVIQJvioxWILiGraBTVSEV7NKiWtMAmbB-e

This build problably works just fine, even though the mace is a slow weapon i will still do damage and I can get pretty good support also. I took Tome of Courage so that If I need some quick team heals, but the other Tome or even Renewed Focus works problably

this isnt a good build for dungeons

edit for clarification
you have three shouts slotted (which i assume you dont always use… but shouts are often a solid choice for utility) but dont have shout cd reduction (symbol size doesnt matter in pve because you should be aiming to bunch stuff up… and also makes other classes potentially harder to play -ele for example)

vengeful is useless, mobs attack slowly and you should be avoiding hits so retaliation does little/no damage, unscathed contender/master of consecrations are much stronger traits in that slot

… then theres what you’re missing, but i have to go and that would take a while

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