Make Virtue changes global (not just PVP)

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Posted by: Bear on the job.6273

Bear on the job.6273

Especially Virtue of Resolve. I never understood why the DH version (Wings of Resolve) is so much better. The activated ability of WOR does 2.4 times the healing of VOR, has better scaling with healing power, recharges 50% faster, breaks immobilize (in addition to normal 2 conditions), and is a leap finisher. The only advantage VOR has is that it’s instant cast…but that doesn’t seem like enough compensation for how much it is lacking.

I understand that DH is an elite trait line, but I don’t think there should be such a large difference in power level with these class abilities. The changes made to PVP, help balance them more, but why were the changes were limited to PVP? Are they testing them before rolling them out to the rest of the game?

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Posted by: cranos.5913

cranos.5913

Well if it doesn’t get added globally that’s probably because of WvW. In pve it doesn’t rly make a difference either way when you look at balance, even with the updated virtues burn guard won’t be decent sadly.

So yeah since core guard is still very much a thing in WvW they prob think it’s too OP to change it there.

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Virtue of Justice might not make it to WvW and PvE.

But the reduced cooldowns on Resolve and Courage should, and the slightly increased healing of Resolve. Those mechanics have really fallen behind compared to current balance.

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Posted by: Brutaly.6257

Brutaly.6257

Ofc they should get adjusted in WvW as well.

The issue is that the passive is stronger than the active and doesnt promote using them.

Its just so messed up that they are so much better in DH compared to vanilla. Its one of the main reason dh is prefered over vanilla. They have better impact in addition to the improved functionality of unblockable cc, frontal bubble and huge healing AND added mobility and lowered cool downs.

Just adjust the cd to pvp level and make it the same in DH and vanilla.
Increase burn duration on justice
Increase healing on resolve with, not just the active but the passive as well which is needed in both pvp and wvw.
Remove aegis and add a boon that actually is useful in wvw and add 25% movement on the passive.
Make a trait that makes all elites reset virtues and remove that from Renewed Focus.

After that reduce the healing from monks focus and voila, we got more build diversity.

Its so kittened that all competitive builds has meditations/DH in them, its pure failure.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

I agree It would be great to make it game wide but as mentioned above core guard is used a lot in WvW and these changes would make it very strong. Still for me personally I find zerg fighting boring and would love the core virtues changes so I can try different roaming builds.

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“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "

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Posted by: Mikau.6920

Mikau.6920

Virtue of Justice might not make it to WvW and PvE.

But the reduced cooldowns on Resolve and Courage should, and the slightly increased healing of Resolve. Those mechanics have really fallen behind compared to current balance.

100% agree. The Virtue of Justice change would be too much, especially on WvW, but the changes on Resolve and Courage should go to PvE/WvW. The main reason that I never went back to Guardian Core is how useless the virtues are.

Sorry for my english.

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Posted by: Bear on the job.6273

Bear on the job.6273

I think part of the VOJ change would be good, increasing the activated burn to 3 stacks instead of 1. Especially compared to SOJ, which is not only an incredible CC ability, but it provides many more burn stacks, and to multiple targets (if you line them up and pierce). The current VOJ is a relic from a time when burns didn’t stack, but increased duration.