Marks, Traps, Bombs: Symbols deserve the same

Marks, Traps, Bombs: Symbols deserve the same

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Posted by: Psilence.2859

Psilence.2859

With the latest update, Bombs had their base radius updated to 240 instead of 180, a change that was already given to Marks when the trait system was updated (Traps were also given a base damage radius of 240.) Symbols deserve the same treatment since the trait system was modified to make it impossible to take the trait that increases Symbol radius and the trait that impacts Shouts (which means the Symbol trait is very rarely taken.)

The Symbol Grandmaster trait will still be plenty powerful just giving a 2 second duration increase and healing effect to symbols for the few builds that really want to specialize in symbols without taking shouts or the vitality increase from Force of Will, but other traits or builds (for instance the fairly weak Zeal Grandmaster trait that boosts damage for fighting in symbols) should not have to rely on taking that trait to be effective against a target that moves even the tiniest bit.

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

It’s not impossible to take that trait. It’s a player choice. Symbols don’t deserve the same treatment because they aren’t marks, etc…

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Posted by: Keksmuffin.1450

Keksmuffin.1450

Symbol radius already got buffed in the past tho.

Bullet Punch

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

To be honest, I don’t know why anyone would take Writ of Persistence over Pure of Voice or Force of Will. Pure of Voice and Force of Will already contest pretty heavily over each other.

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

I know why … because it’s more damage.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

You get 2 extra ticks on every symbol, they’re larger and they heal you… why wouldn’t you take Writ of Persistence? It’s very nice with Hammer + Mace/focus build.

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

You get 2 extra ticks on every symbol, they’re larger and they heal you… why wouldn’t you take Writ of Persistence? It’s very nice with Hammer + Mace/focus build.

Because Pure of Voice is a thing…

Darknicrofia Sage – Bad Gerdian, Merciless Legend, Platinum NA Solo Que

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Posted by: Asmodal.6489

Asmodal.6489

I am for that.

replace the radius increase with symbolic avanger. personally however i would move this trait to zeal line anyways

  1. swap writ of perisistance with shattered aegis
  2. change SA to include wrathful spirit and “when aegis ends remove a condition”
  3. move protectors impact to zeal line
  4. add a relevant Adept trait to Honor Line (maybe +5% damage when endurance is not full)

Guardian class needs alternatives ways to remove conditions that are not tied to utilities. Otherwise we will always end up with the same builds. Tieing it to Aegis would be a really good solution imo especially for dragonhunter fragment trap.

This will maintain the synergy between valor and honor for altruistic healing even without using shouts and has still some group cleanse through communal defense even though it cannot be targeted which is needed to prevent it from being op. retreat gets a cool buff too with the downside taht you can not reduce its cooldown.

and since I completely got carried away change perfect inscriptions too make signet of resolve remove an extra condition for every signet slotted that is off CD. You can remove the light aura from that trait since it has close to none synergy for the guardian anyways.

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