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Posted by: Cempa.3645

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Valor XII : Monk Focus (Meditation Skills Heal You)

Any one has insight here?

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Posted by: DoubleUnder.9052

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As far as I can tell, when you activate a Meditation utility skill you are healed.

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Posted by: Prothescar.7842

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With just under 1300 Healing Power I get healed for about 2100 HP for each meditation. It’s ok if you use Smite Condition and Judge’s Intervention or something, with the Meditations recast reduction, but overall it isn’t as much healing over time as Altruistic Healing. Fun to play with though, and you do get the added bonus of a blink, rapid condition removal, and a bit of damage.

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Posted by: Relentliss.2170

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Its better for pvp while Altruistic is great for pve. Each ability does about 2k heal.

We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional

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Posted by: Prothescar.7842

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Dunno, I’m gonna disagree with you there. I find Altruistic Healing to be indispensable in PvP, particularly high volume PvP in WvW. An Empower is very easily a full HP heal in most situations.

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

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By PvP I would imagine he means Tournaments, not Zerg vs Door.

Meditations Healing is great there. Altruistic Healing is of course lackluster when alone.

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Posted by: Animus.6073

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By PvP I would imagine he means Tournaments, not Zerg vs Door.

Meditations Healing is great there. Altruistic Healing is of course lackluster when alone.

Altruistic Healing is in no way, shape, or form lackluster when alone. It is probably the strongest trait we have in terms of survivability. Nearly everything we do applies a boon. Therefore nearly everything we do heals us. Even alone, the amount of healing generated through Altruistic Healing adds up to a few healing skills worth in an average fight. It only gets stronger the more allies you have.

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Posted by: Animus.6073

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Dunno, I’m gonna disagree with you there. I find Altruistic Healing to be indispensable in PvP, particularly high volume PvP in WvW. An Empower is very easily a full HP heal in most situations.

How does AH and empower = full heal? I thought it procs a max of (5 targets per pulse x 4 pulses x 73) + about 1,750 = 3,210 healing over 3.5 seconds. Is there some way you can trait it so it heals for more?

Remember that each pulse is 3 stacks of might. I am not entirely certain but I believe each stack counts as an individual boon, each one proccing AH. Then of course there is the base heal from Empower itself. With enough Healing Power, it isn’t unheard of to full heal from 20-25% HP.

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Posted by: Polle.6908

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The reason Monk’s focus is favored in Spvp/Tpvp is because of the burst heal it offers compared to AH. AH is excellent in zergs and constant partying but doesn’t match up against MF in a 1vs1 situation which happens constantly in Tpvp/Spvp. (playing as a bunker)

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Posted by: Kita.7819

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Dunno, I’m gonna disagree with you there. I find Altruistic Healing to be indispensable in PvP, particularly high volume PvP in WvW. An Empower is very easily a full HP heal in most situations.

How does AH and empower = full heal? I thought it procs a max of (5 targets per pulse x 4 pulses x 73) + about 1,750 = 3,210 healing over 3.5 seconds. Is there some way you can trait it so it heals for more?

Remember that each pulse is 3 stacks of might. I am not entirely certain but I believe each stack counts as an individual boon, each one proccing AH. Then of course there is the base heal from Empower itself. With enough Healing Power, it isn’t unheard of to full heal from 20-25% HP.

Oh, ok. I thought AH procced for each pulse, not each stack? At work, so can’t test this right now. If it procs for each stack, then I need to start using empower more often in groups.

First off, Empower and altruistic healing is awesome. The other guy is right, it really does heal for around 20-25% hp.

It procs with each pulse. Each pulse gives 3 might to allies and yourself. I may be wrong, but each 3-stack of might is actually 3 different buffs.

So since it pulses 4 times, with the fourth also healing you, you can get a ton of hp this way. Even more if you get two-handed mastery, which just so happens to be in the same trait category.

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Posted by: Relentliss.2170

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With the 4 skill on the staff and ah, you will heal for more than half your health in wvw, whatever the tool tip says.

I should clarify. I often swap ah for the med healing depending on what I am doing in wvw. I really like to skirmish alround the flanks, where med healing is better. In zerg and siege combat, I use ah alot.

We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional

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(edited by Relentliss.2170)

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Posted by: ElSdE.3215

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Also empowered might with alturistic healing also is insane. And if you use sigil of blood with that it gets even better.

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Posted by: CMF.5461

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While my spreadsheets I have been making probably make no sense to anyone else I compiled the different meditation heals versus the boon heals from the two traits.

In short, meditation heals will gain you better self healing when solo, but as soon as there is one other person with you altruistic healing nets you better survivability. Increase that to a group of 5 then it is a clear winner.

While soloing PvE content you usually don’t need the higher healing output as much so altruistic healing is sufficient, while PvPing it all depends on if you plan to be 100% alone with no one to stack boons on or not. Most of the time PvP is a group effort unless there is a complete and utter lack of team or you are dueling.

So while boons provide much smaller heals, they happen more frequently throughout the duration of the fight and if you are applying boons to multiple allies then it becomes a clear winner. Stack that on top of might and/or vigor when critting and you get passive heals for DPSing.

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Posted by: OneManArmy.5617

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Monk Focus allows you for on demand burst healing,meanwhile Altruistic healing provides you with a steady healing flow.
In PvE and WvW usually altruistic healing is best but i find that in tPvP the burst healing is more beneficial especially with smite condition that becomes a ~2k heal with no healing power on a 16second cooldown(with -20% cooldown trait).

Will have to test more to see which is actually better but at the moment i prefer Monk Focus for tPvP and Altruistic healing for the rest of the game.

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Posted by: Kita.7819

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I was incorrect about the two handed mastery. Both skills will require a total of 50 points to obtain

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Posted by: Arken.3725

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As a Guardian with 260 healing power, I get healed for 1920 each meditation. These skills scale terribly with healing power.

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Posted by: Kita.7819

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Probably because they don’t scale at all with healing power.

As far as I know that is.

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