Metabattle: Explain these Guard Roamer builds

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

I’ve noticed Guardian has absolutely no condi specs listed on their front page: Guardian – PvP – Ranked profile. I thought for sure a 6/2/6/0/0 build was listed… but there isnt.

My biggest issue is this:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Guardian_-_Meditation_Roamer
How is this “roamer” build any more superior to a 6/2/6/0/0 1v1/2v2 build?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf7dlsApaolDxbI8DNR8QZ1IUdAUAP61/wMkDA-TJRHwABeCAILDA4kAEa/BA

The above build is on par with Condi Engi, Condi Ranger and definitely Condi Thief. I’ve dueled these classes numerous times in koth and tpvp, I’ve been called op yet they’ve made the “Good Builds” cut.

I wanted to discuss the Guardian “Roamer” build before posting my own on metabattle… but after looking at the Guardian metabattle builds, and knowing similiar 1v1 builds from other classes made the “Good” list, I’m going to make a guide+video regardless.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

We were talking about Conquest builds in the other topic, not roaming. I don’t really play WvW anymore, that’s not my department on the site.

We had that build under Conquest too, but there it was archived because it was inferior to other med zerker builds.

For WvW, you can be more selfish and have access to anti condition food, that’s why there’s place for 1v1 builds (even with poor condi cleansing) in the roaming section but not that much under conquest (unless that can contest points and is unique enough).

Atm WvW Roaming’s the weak link of the site I’d say (because it’s incomplete), that’s where we get the least contributors so feel free to help out :P

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Those roaming builds are for WvW, they also work better in WvW due to the ability to customize your stats. The hybrid doesn’t work as well in WvW, since conditions are somewhat useless in larger fights and also due to consumables such as lemongrass poultry soup.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Gotcha the build is for WvW. Indeed it’s not in the Ranked PvP tab.

However, in Ranked PvP there are still condi engi, and several condi rangers builds listed as “Great”.
What’s funny is even Condi Warriors got into the “Good” builds when their condition application is 2x less than a guardians… but that could have been the popularity of the build itself; a lot of people voting for it at the time.

My point is, condi guard is most definitely more viable than a warrior’s condi spec. Condi guards can beat these “Great” specs but the build itself isn’t listed.

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Posted by: Booms.3952

Booms.3952

condi guard is not that good falselights no matter how much you play it and argue it

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Gotcha the build is for WvW. Indeed it’s not in the Ranked PvP tab.

However, in Ranked PvP there are still condi engi, and several condi rangers builds listed as “Great”.
What’s funny is even Condi Warriors got into the “Good” builds when their condition application is 2x less than a guardians… but that could have been the popularity of the build itself; a lot of people voting for it at the time.

My point is, condi guard is most definitely more viable than a warrior’s condi spec. Condi guards can beat these “Great” specs but the build itself isn’t listed.

Warrior condi application is 2x less than a Guardians …. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Warriors have bleeds on AA, Torment on #4 of Sword, far better Torment than any Guardians get, they get burning, they even have a low CD elite to proc Krait runes, an elite that also helps because of 5 might stacks … They also have acess to criple and immo in the build.

Please get your info straigth before mentioning it …

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Gotcha the build is for WvW. Indeed it’s not in the Ranked PvP tab.

However, in Ranked PvP there are still condi engi, and several condi rangers builds listed as “Great”.
What’s funny is even Condi Warriors got into the “Good” builds when their condition application is 2x less than a guardians… but that could have been the popularity of the build itself; a lot of people voting for it at the time.

My point is, condi guard is most definitely more viable than a warrior’s condi spec. Condi guards can beat these “Great” specs but the build itself isn’t listed.

Warrior condi application is 2x less than a Guardians …. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Warriors have bleeds on AA, Torment on #4 of Sword, far better Torment than any Guardians get, they get burning, they even have a low CD elite to proc Krait runes, an elite that also helps because of 5 might stacks … They also have acess to criple and immo in the build.

Please get your info straigth before mentioning it …

…. Condition Application. Not the number of different conditions they have in their skillset… sorry to confuse you.

The warrior’s, easily cleansing fire condi is hardly something to brag about… if you think the warrior’s condition skillset out damages a guard’s constant burning upkeep, then you’re sadly mistaken.
If so then point me to this warrior so I can duel him/her.

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