Might or Brun? What runes should i go for?

Might or Brun? What runes should i go for?

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

So i have been thinking about this for a long time now. And i tryed to test it my self but I what to hear what you guys think.

Rune set A:
Superior Rune of Hoelbrak 4/6
+75 power
+ 20% might duration
+5% chance to gain might for 20 sec when hit

Superior Rune of the Fire 2/6
+25 power
+20% Might Duration

Might source from my build:
*5% chance on hit for 20 sec (rune)
*3 stacks on weapon swap for 20 sec
*Gain might on block for ? sec ( 4 sec block / block 3 attacks with Shield of wrath, Virtue of courage and shelter)
*Wrathful strike – Might for 3 sec.
*Inspired Virtue – Might for 5 sec (?) when i use Virtue of Justice


Rune set B:
Superior Rune of the Flame Legion 6/6
+165 Power
+15% Burning Duration
+5% chance to cause burning for 1 sec when hit
+5% dmg against burning foes.

Burn sourc from my build:
+5% chance to cause burning for 1 sec when hit (rune)

  • Judge’s Intervention – 3 sec burn
  • Virtue of Justice – 1s and 5s burn
  • Gain a 100% chance to burn attackers when blocking for 1 sec ( 4 sec block / block 3 attacks with Shield of wrath, Virtue of courage and shelter)

So what rune set is going to provide me the most DPS/DMG? When it comes to burn i mainly use burn to increase my dmg. The Dmg from burn is just a bonus (Fiery wrath). I think the most Might stack i ever seen on my self was 13.

heres my build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fUMQNAR5dlUgiDnGyNEfIFSugqCxDODCsiueoQPUDB;TkAgzCmoCyEkIIrOugk6MEB

(Copy/paste if the link dont work)

MysticoN – 80 Necro
Draci – 80 Guardian ( on hold)
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Posted by: Exedore.6320

Exedore.6320

It depends what this is for (solo PvE, dungeon PvE, WvW, sPvP), which weapons you’re using, and how much base power you have. First, if you’re doing group PvE, especially in dungeons, you will almost always have might and almost always be attacking a burning target. Most of those might sources you mentioned are only for yourself, so the comparison is pretty easy to make.

That being said, from the math I’ve seen, Might has less returns as a percent increase with the more power you have. So if you have 2000 power already, which is common for a lot of offensive guardian builds, you probably don’t want to focus too much on the Might boon. You may want to go with 6x Rune of Strength instead and get +5% damage while under the effects of Might.

I wouldn’t go Rune of the Flame Legion. If you’re grouped with others, burning will always be up on targets with a lot of HP and unless you’re adding to condition damage, there’s no compelling reason to extend your burning duration. In solo, stuff dies quick enough that it won’t make a huge difference.

Overall, rune choices for guardian seem rather lackluster. Most focus on offensive boons, of which we don’t have many, or conditions that we don’t have or don’t use a lot.

Kirrena Rosenkreutz

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Posted by: El Topo.5204

El Topo.5204

That builder is currently down. Personally if u want to burn, and going with a block build take Guardian runes. One burn per block with seemingly no cooldown. Also I’d suggest Torch as an off-hand. Virtue of Justice burn and Torch 4 burn is 8 secs. Since it looks like u are going with a Med build, u should be able to keep the burn going.

As for Might I have been doing some testing myself, and Sigil of Battle and better might traits are all u need. The rest u can make up with Blast Finisher (Hammer 2/Focus 5) and a Fire Field like Purging Flame, which fits into your burn build. If u are going to do that go with Knight Jewels for a attribute balance.

I play a build like this myself and it works really well.

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Posted by: Sairenkao.6485

Sairenkao.6485

If you are using burns as large source of damage, burn duration is not worth it. Burns only tick on full seconds, so a burn last 1.5 seconds does the same amount of damage as a burn that lasted 1 second.

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Posted by: valdamus.6289

valdamus.6289

^remember that he also deals 5% damage to burning targets.

to answer op. All this time i’ve used 6/6 rune of flame legion and well the extra dmg is nothing to brag about. Im gonna use now 6/6 of strength and see how that goes.

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Posted by: Sairenkao.6485

Sairenkao.6485

^remember that he also deals 5% damage to burning targets.

to answer op. All this time i’ve used 6/6 rune of flame legion and well the extra dmg is nothing to brag about. Im gonna use now 6/6 of strength and see how that goes.

Yes, I know. I’m just saying it’s not worth stacking Condition Damage and Duration. Duration for just % more damage is fine, since you are stacking Power.

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

But i also heard that its not realy that good to stack might when you have over 2k power. (post in this thread)

Anyone know if the runeset that give chance to burn and might have a CD?

When hit, does that mean that it triggers when i hit or when i get hit? If its when i hit then a faster attack speed weapon is going to be bether.

I realy whant to like sword as a guardian but i always break the skill 2 since i have to stand still for it to use it. (since the skillbuilder i used is down i dont have acssess to skill builder any longer at work, that was the only one that whent true the software block on my work)

MysticoN – 80 Necro
Draci – 80 Guardian ( on hold)
-Far Silverpeak-

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Posted by: El Topo.5204

El Topo.5204

This why I suggested going with a balanced Amulet like Knights, with a Toughness jewel of your choice. Using Toughness armor runes like Guardian runes would help your build. With this setup u should have about 1500 in Power, Precision, and Toughness. 2k in Vitality. Very balanced attributes. Stacking Might on a balanced setup helps a lot, since your Power isn’t capped. Add the Retributive Armor trait in Valor to get close to 40% crit chance in most builds.

I’ve been playing with this balanced setup since late alpha, and its by far the best combo I’ve tried. I’ve played with high Power builds and low crit chance, and I can really feel the difference. Its like night and day.

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

im useing the cleric amulet for the healing power. Trying a crit build now (around 44%). For some reason i never liked crit builds in mmo. Im more of a higher dmg instead of random bursts. What is the cap on power and other stats btw?

I guess its something else in this game, its almost to easy to get high crit chance, i see that you used to play a heavy power build and its like night and day? What do you mean with that?

MysticoN – 80 Necro
Draci – 80 Guardian ( on hold)
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Posted by: Exedore.6320

Exedore.6320

But i also heard that its not realy that good to stack might when you have over 2k power. (post in this thread)

This is because Might is absolute in terms of its scaling. If you deal 100 damage, 1.5 damage from Might is a lot. If you deal 500 damage, 1.5 damage from Might is a lot less. You’re better off looking for something with percentage scaling.

So for most offensive guardians, which will naturally have high power, self-stacking Might isn’t as good as using 6x Rune of Strength and just enough Might to keep the 5% damage bonus active.

Kirrena Rosenkreutz