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Posted by: tylertyler.8901

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I’m not complaining about Mesmers being OP (just to get that out of the way). I want to know what to do to counter there shatter builds. I have no problems against other classes. Me vs Eles ends in stalemates and wins, but Shatter Mesmers I get destroyed. Obviously I am fighting them all wrong and could use advice on what to do. I usually roll with a Greatsword & Sceptre, Focus. Sometimes Hammer in place of the GS. I am open to trying anything.

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Posted by: Relentliss.2170

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You have to be aggressive with mesmers. Go right after them. You have to agis or dodge the shatters. If you time WW right you can cut most of them down before being shattered. Its going to be pretty risky either way. The times I catch the mesmer with the gs 5 pull, I usually win. The times I don’t, you’re dead.

Start gs 5, use ji, pull mesmer to you. WW and voj.

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Posted by: Blackmoon.6837

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I was in some rough 1v1 setups last night. I joined a game to find some guildies doing some 1v1. So I challenged a couple (both being guardians). As a berserker mes, I must admit, the damage I was dealing was good, but just not good enough.

Both rounds lasted a good amount of time, but in the end, their ability to know when to dodge my shatters mixed with their protection skills was too much for me to handle. They would keep close to me, constantly circling to keep me off balance from casting my illusions and failing to get the straight-shot I need for Spatial Surge. They knew when to dodge the shatters and Phantasmal Berserker.

It just takes practice and you can own us easily. We’re really not that great once you know when to dodge and how to manipulate the field so our casting fails.

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Posted by: KensaiZen.3740

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Turn off auto targeting. It will save you using WW or MB on the illusions. Train yourself to read the attack patterns of clones. Attack the one thats not a clone and just dodge when you see clones moving forward. Most of them are stationary.

Mesmers genrally dont last that long if you stick to them like glue. You could try sceptre as an alternative weapon.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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You need to be extremely aggressive against them. With a lot of immobilize, knockdown, knockback, and etc. Also if you see you have a lot of Confusion stacks please stop attacking, and just dodge. Yes it sucks not doing anything, but it’s better then killing yourself.

Also shatter builds are squishy for the most part, so they go down easy.

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Posted by: TheGreatA.4192

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Run after them like crazy and keep your eyes on the real mesmer. Learn all their tricks as well to make it easier on yourself. I’ve fought some fairly skilled mesmers and won, only because I was able to tank more than they could while still dealing out solid damage.

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Posted by: juno.1840

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A tanky guardian lasts a long time against a shatter mesmer (I play both professions).

Your keys to victory are AoE to wreck the clones/phantasms, gap closers, immobilize. Burning also helps as a mesmer typically has only one condition removal on long c/d (either Null field, iDisenchanter, or mantra).

You’ll also need a melee weapon as nothing ranged is going to cut it for a guardian.

Not sure if CTRL-T still works, but you may want to try it as it singles out the mesmer from the clones. There are other tricks for clone identification as well such as attack rate, movement behaviors, and off-hand weapon for 1H wep mesmers.

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