Guild Wars 2

Valor
Communal Defenses – Grand 5 seconds of aegis to allies in 360 range when you block an attack.

This change indicates to me that anet still doesn’t understand why PvE has degenerated into 5 zerkers stacking on top of one another. I haven’t played since January but came back to read the development updates. The zerker nerf isn’t so bad, but I was saddened to see our new traits were either boring passives or support traits which simply won’t work well.

As with many of our other support talents – symbols, empowering might, dodge roll heal, healing breeze, and to a lesser degree shouts.. the range is just too small to be useful.

In a pug group, playing the game normally, everyone will probably be all over the place. Support skills like this are useless.
In an organised group where everyone is less than 360 range apart; everyone is either zerker or should be zerker.

In short : Skills like this encourage stacking. Stacking encourages zerkers.
Buff support characters by making it significantly easier to support!

That trait can become a problem in some situations: one guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, another guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, the 3° guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, the 1° guardian’s Communal Defenses CD is gone, he block another attack and give aegis to all, the second block another attack, he give another time aegis to the 1 and the 3 guardian, the 3 guardian block another attack. Then all 3 use they’re virtue to block attacks, then the trait CD is already gone for the 1 guardian and all that restart…
I don’t want find a guardian zerg in wvsw using all that trait XD

But I don’t want to use that trait why: you can use Communal Defenses OR Altruistic Healing…
Then… ehm… thx to the developer for that beautifull trait… but… sorry… I prefer Altruistic healing…

Why don’t people just accept the fact that healing isn’t needed so full zerker is better. Buffing support characters would still make support characters useless as they would just slow down runs. They need to buff pve in order to fix the problem. Personally I want support characters to remain useless because I don’t want dedicated roles in this game

The trait itself is good but the valor line is trash. If it were in honor or virtues it would be better

Painbow.6059:

Why don’t people just accept the fact that healing isn’t needed so full zerker is better.

Same reason that why people don’t just accept the fact that this game is designed to allow people to play how they want and succeed.

The range on this new trait is a joke. Why does it need a range at all? Just give all team members an Aegis.

Obtena.7952:

Painbow.6059:

Why don’t people just accept the fact that healing isn’t needed so full zerker is better.

Same reason that why people don’t just accept the fact that this game is designed to allow people to play how they want and succeed.

The range on this new trait is a joke. Why does it need a range at all? Just give all team members an Aegis.

You can succeed using clerics gear if you don’t mind being a waste of space

Painbow.6059:

Why don’t people just accept the fact that healing isn’t needed so full zerker is better. Buffing support characters would still make support characters useless as they would just slow down runs. They need to buff pve in order to fix the problem. Personally I want support characters to remain useless because I don’t want dedicated roles in this game

The trait itself is good but the valor line is trash. If it were in honor or virtues it would be better

Do you mean that you don’t want dedicated roles in pve? Because they already exist in wvw and spvp.

This is a nice buff for Mace, actually, and it needs all the help it can get.

Whats the ICD of this trait?

Silv.9207:

That trait can become a problem in some situations: one guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, another guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, the 3° guardian block an attack, lose aegis and give aegis, the 1° guardian’s Communal Defenses CD is gone, he block another attack and give aegis to all, the second block another attack, he give another time aegis to the 1 and the 3 guardian, the 3 guardian block another attack. Then all 3 use they’re virtue to block attacks, then the trait CD is already gone for the 1 guardian and all that restart…
I don’t want find a guardian zerg in wvsw using all that trait XD

But I don’t want to use that trait why: you can use Communal Defenses OR Altruistic Healing…
Then… ehm… thx to the developer for that beautifull trait… but… sorry… I prefer Altruistic healing…

yeah, but the thing is, just AoE them, and they all use the CD at once, and it completely negates multiple people having it. It means everyone gets a free extra block, since Aegis doesnt have charges and just increases duration. WvW, this trait is useless due to AoE, and the horrible range.

If this also affects the Guardian I might actually really like this trait o-O

Bash.7291:

WvW, this trait is useless due to AoE, and the horrible range.

This could give birth to Guardian Bombs in WvW. Don’t be so quick to negate it. I have plenty of video’s of me drop’n 16k aoe dmg in 2-3s. If I had another 3-4 people with me and they were all guradians… that’s a TON of AoE dmg.

Shattered Aegis in an of itself is useless, but when stacking 3+ people, it’s a nice 2.5-3k AoE dmg per Guardian.

Just saying….

But then again, you give up ALL healing and I have video’s of that show just how absolutely horrible GC Guardians are anything over 5+ encounters… vs.. /cough warrior in same gear..

It’s NOT a fair trade off for the guardian… every guardian knows this… yet Anet has it’s head so far up its wahzoo to even see it as a possibility…

We’re all just Bunkers in their eyes when it comes to WvW.

Amins.3710:

Bash.7291:

WvW, this trait is useless due to AoE, and the horrible range.

This could give birth to Guardian Bombs in WvW. Don’t be so quick to negate it. I have plenty of video’s of me drop’n 16k aoe dmg in 2-3s. If I had another 3-4 people with me and they were all guradians… that’s a TON of AoE dmg.

Shattered Aegis in an of itself is useless, but when stacking 3+ people, it’s a nice 2.5-3k AoE dmg per Guardian.

Just saying….

But then again, you give up ALL healing and I have video’s of that show just how absolutely horrible GC Guardians are anything over 5+ encounters… vs.. /cough warrior in same gear..

It’s NOT a fair trade off for the guardian… every guardian knows this… yet Anet has it’s head so far up its wahzoo to even see it as a possibility…

We’re all just Bunkers in their eyes when it comes to WvW.

And spvp…

And yeah, I could see the damage scaling insanely if everything goes right, but yeah, once you start getting zerg numbers it is going to drop off horribly, and sadly with T1, if you arent running with 20+ odds are you are going to get ran over at some point, even more with the new season coming up

Painbow.6059:

Obtena.7952:

Painbow.6059:

Why don’t people just accept the fact that healing isn’t needed so full zerker is better.

Same reason that why people don’t just accept the fact that this game is designed to allow people to play how they want and succeed.

The range on this new trait is a joke. Why does it need a range at all? Just give all team members an Aegis.

You can succeed using clerics gear if you don’t mind being a waste of space

Exactly my point … there IS no competitive aspect to this game in PVE, (exception, hihg level fractals). I can use the WORST stats for an encounter and succeed. Therefore, NOTHING in the game design prevents people from doing it, so why would they limit themselves to appease the desire of other players at the expense of their own? That’s simply not realistic to expect people to align to what other people want them to do unless there is real in-game features that force them too.

mrauls.6519:

If this also affects the Guardian I might actually really like this trait o-O

I’m trying to find a way to like this trait as well. If it does not apply aegis back to the guardian as well…then its garbage and not worth giving up other options in other trait lines. I’m already not liking having to give up everything in virtues and honor to get this as a pve dps guard. Also not liking the lack of swiftness/aegis options on meditations. Giving up all the utility of virtues and honor, giving up cd reduction on shouts (swiftness and aegis)….just doesn’t seem worth it for something that probably won’t even apply aegis back to the guardian.

On top of all those losses…getting this trait requires maximum investment in the same stat that is getting the nerf hammer in the same patch.