Guild Wars 2

Hello,

I am a new player and want to play a melee dps class for pickup battlegounds.

Can a guardian pump out damage in a dps role, I mean enough to actually be competitive, or do they have to play a support role?

I was going to play a warrior but several of my friends have said that has been nerfed into the ground.

TY in advance.

Warrior is only really bad in sPvP

That having been said, Guardians can pump out a ton of DPS and still maintain high defense. The Valor trait line gives you toughness AND critical damage. There’s a reason for that

Guardians can burst insane numbers and are a top-notch damage class if traited and built right. Most just don’t usually got full damage since we have the lowest healthpool in the game and no means to escape tricky situations.

Warriors nerfed into the ground? No. Guards stuck in low dps high support? No.
Only bad thing about warrior is as mentioned, no good for sPvP/WvW. As of recent patch, warriors are a bit better at support thru banners. Guards still much better at support, nothing changed there, while still having good dps thru builds and/or gear, though warrior burst is still nice.

Daywolf.2630:

Warriors nerfed into the ground? No. Guards stuck in low dps high support? No.
Only bad thing about warrior is as mentioned, no good for sPvP/WvW. As of recent patch, warriors are a bit better at support thru banners. Guards still much better at support, nothing changed there, while still having good dps thru builds and/or gear, though warrior burst is still nice.

I heard warriors are a bit bad for spvp, especially bunker warriors. But they’re certainly not bad for wvw. 100b warrior, possibly. But they should try to use hammer instead.

Daywolf.2630:

Warriors nerfed into the ground? No. Guards stuck in low dps high support? No.
Only bad thing about warrior is as mentioned, no good for sPvP/WvW. As of recent patch, warriors are a bit better at support thru banners. Guards still much better at support, nothing changed there, while still having good dps thru builds and/or gear, though warrior burst is still nice.

What? Warriors don’t suck for WvW at ALL. They are in fact one of the best classes for WvW (in a coordinated group that is), I dunno what you’ve been reading =/.

As for Guardians being better at support, that’s quite subjective. It’s easier to say it like this: Guardians are better for defensive support. Most of the boons we give our allies are defensive in nature. The only real offensive supportive skills are the 4 skill on the staff and the spells contained in Tome of Wrath (which is a Guardian’s dedicated offensive elite). Meanwhile, warriors are more oriented in the nature of offensive support.

Comparing shouts for example,

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shout

Warrior shouts are oriented more towards laying down more deeps on your foe. That doesn’t mean they’re not defensive in nature, as Shake it off is clearly defensive and Fear me is both, but at the same time Guardians don’t have anything really offensive except maybe stand your ground. Save yourselves does give offensive boons, yes, but only to the guardian. To everyone else it removes their conditions.

Teamkiller.4315:

What? Warriors don’t suck for WvW at ALL. They are in fact one of the best classes for WvW (in a coordinated group that is), I dunno what you’ve been reading =/.

Good cigars, really. Maybe it’s just my server, but I don’t see a lot of warriors in wvw compared to other classes. Although if I were to take my warrior in, I’d do as the above poster suggested and use hammer for sure (and rifle). GS is too stationary in most cases. Even in pve I prefer to use hammer often. Yes groups in wvw, but even in groups you tend to get a little separated and need to more or less 1v1. In any case, wvw is more doable than spvp, but I’d highly rather take my guard in.

Yeah I don’t know, I tried testing this last night, keeping a lookout for warriors. But every time I’d engage a warrior he’d run away… (on my d/d stealth thief). I even saw a thief warrior duo, before I dropped the thief the warrior was already too far off to chase… lol …retreating from an attempted siege and me the only defender. Main thing I noticed is just harder cutting thru the armor, but they were just having a hard time landing blows apart from rifle shots. However, I’m reading warriors gaining ranks pretty well, so they must be fighting something and winning. But still not seeing many of them, and hardly a banner to be seen. Always lots of guards though.

i have a warrrior and a guardian that i play in WvW

keep in mind that this is bias towards the warrior but WvW is a little easier on the Guardian. Warrior has much better nuking capabilities, can spread a lot more pain quicker and in a larger area then the warrior. but the guardian has a lot more ways to stay alive longer then the warrior and it’s like they say “your damage per second is zero when you are dead on the ground”

guardian is more focused on helping your team stay live. warrior is better at helping your team do more damage.

warrior can be a lot faster then guardian. in fact i would say that the three fastest classes over a long distance are elementalist, warrior and then thief. (granted thief has teleporting skills to catch a warrior if they are chasing them)

neither class is that good at solo roaming.

use alot of valkyrie trinkets/runes (runes being the Wurm) and just use Power/Toughness/Vitality and you will dish out a truckload of damage.