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Posted by: yLoon.5289

yLoon.5289

So here’s what warrior got for their new weapon skill.
Flames of War

Light yourself ablaze, burning off conditions and creating a fire field around you that follows you and burns enemies caught inside it. When the field expires, it explodes, dealing damage and applying more burning to foes around you."

Am i the only person that got mad on this?

12K AP
Level 54 Bear Rank

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

no, you aint

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/I-know-why-no-self-condi-cleanse-w-torch-5/first#post5397718

also, must love that heal

Blood Reckoning: This heal works on your condition damage as well and you get more healing with crits. 30% of your damage is converted to healing and if you crit it is 50% of the damage. Critical hits also generate an extra adrenaline. Berserker mode will benefit the most from this skill.

its litany of wrath w/o the initial heals but w/ more healing thru dmg. at least its not just an improvement on the skill in the way the torch is an improvement in the way guards wanted for their torch

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Posted by: Assic.2746

Assic.2746

Am i the only person that got mad on this?

I believe it should not remove conditions… If you are berserking you have no time to remove condies.. you focus on dealing damage.

Plus removing condition on torch skills is guardian’s advantage, warriors shouldn’t have it…

(edited by Assic.2746)

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

Am i the only person that got mad on this?

I believe it should not remove conditions… If you are berserking you have to time to remove condies.. you focus on dealing damage.

Plus removing condition on torch skills is guardian’s advantage, warriors shouldn’t have it…

they also get a slick moving fire field. as i recall:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zealot's_Flame

Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes.

where the fart is my moving fire field?

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

I’d be less upset with this if not for the fact that my torch 4 throw still gets obstructed by thin air.

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Posted by: Psilence.2859

Psilence.2859

It is actually pretty annoying that with the new traits like remove condition on weapon swap (which is 1 every 5 seconds) and cleansing ire (up to 3 also with very low cooldown) Warrior is already MUCH better at condition cleansing than Guardian with minimal investment, and now they’re getting another tool for condi cleansing which Guardian is supposed to be better at. Guardian has some decent condition cleansing options of course, but they’re mostly skills which limits other options much more and most have much longer cooldowns.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

It is actually pretty annoying that with the new traits like remove condition on weapon swap (which is 1 every 5 seconds) and cleansing ire (up to 3 also with very low cooldown) Warrior is already MUCH better at condition cleansing than Guardian with minimal investment, and now they’re getting another tool for condi cleansing which Guardian is supposed to be better at. Guardian has some decent condition cleansing options of course, but they’re mostly skills which limits other options much more and most have much longer cooldowns.

If you think Warriors are good at condi cleansing. Look at the new datamined thief skills. The stuff they can now get on every dodge is incredibile.

Heal on dodge (if successfully evaded an attack)
Swiftness on Dodge
Removal of Movement impairing condi on dodge
After dodge next attack does bonus damage
Extra dagger attacks on dodge

FINALLY remove a condition on dodge

Since us guards only have one condi (burning) dont expect to be able to kill a warrior or thief with burning.

Your typical average gamer -
“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "

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Posted by: merchantchuck.4875

merchantchuck.4875

I was pretty kittened off about the warrior elite spec but I was waiting for someone to make a post about it. It’s like a better, stronger guardian. They even got our fire animation from our justice procs, but they have it for their berserker mode.

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

First the Shield with Herald
Now the Torch with the Warrior
Behold, this week is Staff

Phask - Guardian/DH | Phaskk - Warrior | Phaask - Revenant

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

First the Shield with Herald
Now the Torch with the Warrior
Behold, this week is Staff

Don’t forget after this comes Engi with Hammer… No surpprise if they can trait Glacial Heart or similar skill without messing their whole build.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

First the Shield with Herald
Now the Torch with the Warrior
Behold, this week is Staff

Don’t forget after this comes Engi with Hammer… No surpprise if they can trait Glacial Heart or similar skill without messing their whole build.

they’ll trait glacial heart but it’ll also add slow after the chill ends, and maybe add +20% dmg while chilled/slowed

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Posted by: merchantchuck.4875

merchantchuck.4875

Guardian is slowly being replaced ;(

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Posted by: Eversor.5186

Eversor.5186

Guardian is slowly being replaced ;(

sadly

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Posted by: Lord Rheios.4152

Lord Rheios.4152

I’ve said it like twelve times that the Guardian should get a mainhand torch for a witch-huntery zealot build. And then we got bow and traps and I shrugged and thought, “The bows cool enough. I won’t use it, but its cool. Heck I even like the traps for my condi guard. And maybe I’ll get main-hand torch guard in the future. I mean its a bit of a request” Then warrior got an amped up torch and I figured “Its not like its main-hand. They certainly deserve a cool torch.” Then I read condition cleanse and moving fire field and it rustled my jimmies a bit. Some out of jealousy, some out of simple thematics. Self immolation always seemed more martyrdom and zealotry than berserker fury to me really. Blaze breaker suites them though I think.

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Posted by: Thorin.9624

Thorin.9624

Anet mods play eles, mesmers and warriors any other questions?

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Posted by: BadSanta.6527

BadSanta.6527

dear guridans our ship is shinking

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

well our future is bunker build (again) but without shield

Bunker seems funny without shield

edit: As I was saying when DH came out, our specialization will be the worst No idea no visalisation and with no sync with todays skills.

(edited by Ragnarox.9601)

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

Guardian WAS in a good spot. You can see that because most specs got something from him:

  • Bezerker: Upgraded Guardian’s Torch with useful #5.
  • Herald: Shield skills that we’ve been asking for ages.
  • Reaper: Greasword pull and good AoE damage.
  • Tempest: Giving a ton of boons to your allies with increased duration (remember when bunker Guards mixed Monk and Water runes to have this before it was nerfed?)

The question here is: Why are we getting one of the least appealing set of skills in the entire game as our spec (traps) while everyone else (except Tempest prehaps) is getting buffs?

I hope we can be heard, that the suggestions we make are at least read from the dev team. Already got my account suspended last week for writting too much about this but I won’t stop, we have to let them know we are not happy with Dragon Hunter

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Posted by: rian.9708

rian.9708

After seeing that all ,well most classes got out weapons/trait skill upgraded (war-torch/herald-shield/reaper-greatsword/thief-heal+increase dmg on dodge) Guardian feels like a Old retired soldier whos moment has passed on and now will fade in the memory of the ones who got to knew the guardian in his time of glory.