Guild Wars 2

can we attack once the skill is activated?

Doesn’t seem like an untraitable endure pain would be overpowered as an elite.

Yeah I was gonna say, it’s still worse than endure pain. It has to be channeled while running around like an idiot

indeed it’s a bit funny. whats the point of running around while getting beaten on your back like a kittenroach?

Invulnerability > Endure Pain. Conditions and CC can still be applied with Endure Pain.

And yeah, it also recharges virtues if you’ve forgotten.

3s vs 5s duration, cd difference, ability to attack vs not. any day anyone would prefer endure pain to this so called “elite” skill.

You guys fail at guardian if you think renewed focus is not awesome.

@Natas
Couldnt agree more, maybe the best elite, being both offensive and defensive in nature, we have and now it got even better.

Huge boost.

And no, its not worse then endure pain, its by far much stronger.

This was a much needed change. Being able to move during Renewed Focus makes it a lot more useful.

This skill should of been mobile in the first place. As much as I love the change, it didn’t do much before but let you live 3 seconds longer(if you didn’t have conditions on you) while looking like an idiot recharging virtues.

People forget that the Guardian was intended as a support class and not the top tier DPS class. RF is powerful.

Love the new version, 3 seconds of invincibilty on tap while on the move and a reset of all virtues = NICE (now to get it so we can attack during the invincibilty ).

I like the possibility of running while channeling it, will probably never use it because i have to stay on the point to defend and cap xD

Natas.1306:

You guys fail at guardian if you think renewed focus is not awesome.

Well said renewed focus is amazing, when used correctly.

It was amazing before the patch and now it is every more amazing!

Thanks for this buff Areanet!

LOVING IT!

Verry Nice buff to Renewed Focus

You guys fail at guardian if you think renewed focus is not awesome.

Agreed. You do not deserve to be a guardian if you do not appreciate how good this actually is.

Renewed Focus is the Guardian’s best Elite skill hands down, in my opinion. It’s also the only one that can be used underwater, so it gets points for that too.

As for why, it’s utility is excellent. It instantly recharges virtues… excellent for Courage and Resolve, and it grants invincibility(save from already existing conditions) while it’s occurring. Thus, we have something that not only can save a guardian’s tail during that big attack, but something that also sets up some of their most useful skills to be used again.

If you’re a Guardian and you aren’t activating your virtues, shame on you ^.^

Ohhh yeah, superior rune of Lyssa is now more worth it~

@Holyfrog:
Well you can run in circles without giving up the point

@whiners:
Do you play Guardian at all, or you are a (insert another class here) griefing in the wrong forum?
This is a much needed BUFF (or Fix as you call it) and something we Guardians expected from day 1.

^ Fabsm.5897 thinks Guardians shouldn’t defeat other classes in 1v1.

You are a “whiner” if you disagree with Fabsm.5897 and think Guardians should defeat other classes 1v1.

wolfie.7296:

^ Fabsm.5897 thinks Guardians shouldn’t defeat other classes in 1v1.

We are defenders. We make them pay if they want to get our points.
This is WINNING, let killing other classes to other sissy professions that cannot resist 10 seconds without help.

Yea and while ANet is at it they should probably make Endure Pain reset the recharges on some of the Warriors key abilities….

Different professions with different abilities. Why do you want to homogenize?

Its a great buff, and if you cant beat ppl 1v1 any Time at all then your the baddie and not the Class.. Being able to attack while using Renewed focus would just be silly and to good

Natas.1306:

You guys fail at guardian if you think renewed focus is not awesome.

It is awesome, but if you need the invulnerability, you’re going to die anyway. If 3s of invulnerability saves you, I’ll eat my hat.

Svarty.8019:

Natas.1306:

You guys fail at guardian if you think renewed focus is not awesome.

It is awesome, but if you need the invulnerability, you’re going to die anyway. If 3s of invulnerability saves you, I’ll eat my hat.

You want some salt with that hat?
It’s not just three seconds of invulnerability, it also resets your Virtues.

Yeah.. ppl tend to forgett about the importance of the virtues.. sigh..

still doesn’t match the awesomeness of my snow leopard

I understand the importance of virtues. I just think this elite should of been mobile at the beginning. As it stands right now, this wasn’t a buff but rather a fix. Simple enough.

First its been stationary since the beginning and wasnt intended to be mobile.

Now when it is mobile then its not a buff, but a fix!!?

What was the bug?

Semantics, its a huge buff to the guardian on an already strong skill.

Brutaly.6257:

First its been stationary since the beginning and wasnt intended to be mobile.

Now when it is mobile then its not a buff, but a fix!!?

What was the bug?

Semantics, its a huge buff to the guardian on an already strong skill.

It’s not a buff because even though you were recharging virtues, you were a sitting duck not being able to close the distance on say a ranged class while he/she retreats to a safe distance and picks you off as soon as you’re done taking said dump.

Arken.3725:

Brutaly.6257:

First its been stationary since the beginning and wasnt intended to be mobile.

Now when it is mobile then its not a buff, but a fix!!?

What was the bug?

Semantics, its a huge buff to the guardian on an already strong skill.

It’s not a buff because even though you were recharging virtues, you were a sitting duck not being able to close the distance on say a ranged class while he/she retreats to a safe distance and picks you off as soon as you’re done taking said dump.

So making you able to move isnt a buff??

They just removed one huge drawback on the skill and its not a buff?

I dont understand the logic in your statement. Its like if they decreased cd on a skill and then we call it a fix and stating its not a buff.

If it increases performance its a buff and there was nothing wrong with RF prepatch but it had some drawbacks which are now eliminated.

Whats your definition of a buff, mine is that performance is improved!?

It was definitely a buff. Yeah, it should have been like that from the start, but when something gets improved, and isn’t a bug-fix, it’s a buff.

When does this stuff go live?

what goes live??

EP has been bugged forever. no condition protection and only lasts 3 seconds.

Svarty

It is awesome, but if you need the invulnerability, you’re going to die anyway. If 3s of invulnerability saves you, I’ll eat my hat.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve defeated burst builds with that skill. The skill is great when used preemptively. You need to find a hat factory and start eating.

Hjulstad.6317:

Yeah.. ppl tend to forgett about the importance of the virtues.. sigh..

So it resets your virtues to give you another block, a small heal, and a potential blind if you speced for it. I would still take Endure Pain over it. If it made you immune to CC that would be one thing, but it doesn’t which means any good player with CC is going to CC you and finish you off before you can even take advantage of your renewed virtues.

An extra two seconds of invulnerability with the ability to attack. A pretty sweet deal for a utility.

If Renewed Focus isn’t making you immune to CC, it’s bugged. Invulnerability provides no protection against existing conditions, but it makes any attacks directed toward you automatically fail, including any crowd control effects.

At worst, Renewed Focus is an emergency reset button that lets you burn all your virtues for party-wide Aegis, Burn and a modest heal followed by invulnerability, and that’s if you don’t spec into it at all. However, many builds will include 5 Virtues, in which case Renewed Focus grants nearby allies 3 stacks of might, 5s of Regeneration and 5s of Protection, and then personal invulnerability, and then lets you do it all over again immediately after.

If you’re 20-30 Virtues, Renewed Focus grants all nearby allies Might, Protection, Regeneration, removes 3 conditions and either breaks stuns or grants stability—twice. And this is on top of 3 seconds of personal Invulnerability. Measuring it up against Endure Pain is pointless when you consider just how formidable a well-timed Renewed Focus can be with anywhere from 5-20 points in Virtues, let alone 30.

Just off the top of my head, I can think of some amazing synergy between Renewed Focus, 5 Virtues and Altruistic Healing. Plus Renewed Focus + Deep Virtues + Stand Your Ground and Hallowed Ground = A kitten-ton (kitten-ton being a very technical term…) of stability for everyone.

Prior to the patch, Renewed Focus was situationally strong for some builds and universally decent for every build. After the patch, and the removal of immobilization, Renewed Focus is universally strong for every build and situationally outstanding for appropriate builds.

kidbs.8920:

Hjulstad.6317:

Yeah.. ppl tend to forgett about the importance of the virtues.. sigh..

So it resets your virtues to give you another block, a small heal, and a potential blind if you speced for it. I would still take Endure Pain over it. If it made you immune to CC that would be one thing, but it doesn’t which means any good player with CC is going to CC you and finish you off before you can even take advantage of your renewed virtues.

Never mind, EveningStar beat me to it so i will only leave my ironic comment.

irony on
Yeah warriors got the sweet deal and we got the short end of the stick.
Irony off

I have one big issue with Renewed Focus: It should be a 3s Block not Invulnerability. Block, while Warriors can do it too, feels like a proper Guardian mechanic since it’s everywhere. Hence I would love to see this.

ppl who cry that RF aint as good as Endure Pain.. Just go roll a warrior.. Giving guardian something that is to close to Endure Pain would be toooooo OP… And this allready feels abit OP tbh.. This discussion is almost as funny as the guys crying for the low HP pool of the guardian.. Why even stick with the class then? Just roll warrior? Dont make this class stronger Anet plz.. Cause then it will be to strong..

I am no fan of the warrior… but

1) Enduring pain just protect against damage, it doesn’t protect against condition and CC. Renewed Focus protects against everything and now no longer roots you in place. RF is far superior in its power compared to EP.

2) Enduring Pain can be traited to last 2 seconds longer and RF, is not a elite skill, and breaks stun (while RF doesn’t). While its effect is not as powerful as RF, it can be used in more situations, and for longer period.

3) RF recharges virtues: if you are solo’ing and don’t bother with virtues, this may not sound that that big of a deal, but virtues are very much group-oriented, and can be traited to be extremely powerful. VoJ can be made into a AOE blind + 3 stacks of might + 6s burn for each of your allies’ next attack. VoR can be made to remove 3 conditions from everyone + heal and regen. VoC can be traited to give Aegis, Protection + 3 second of stability and GROUP STUN BREAK. EP offers no such depth and potential abilities.

In solo situations, RF is somewhat better than EP depends on how much you like virtues. In group situations, these don’t even compare.

Brutaly.6257:

what goes live??

It’s not live yet. I went in WvW and neither Renewed Focus nor Save Yourselves! were any different than before.

Svarty.8019:

Brutaly.6257:

what goes live??

It’s not live yet. I went in WvW and neither Renewed Focus nor Save Yourselves! were any different than before.

What-chu-talkin-bout O.o

Save Yourselves was only changed in sPvP, WvW is unchanged. Renewed Focus was changed everywhere.

It is live, it worked fine for me earlier when i went in to get my monthly 50 WvWvW kills.

So many times i have gotten out of dodge using this today, pop all my vitues and hit retreat (or SY – depending on my build) for the speed boost (and curing a condition – i use soilder runes), then pop Renewed Focus and run like like the wind out of the fight area.

Let me school all the kid that think renewed focus is not good:

While channeling you can activate your virtues.

Scenario: You are about to die, pop your aegis(1 block) activate renewed focus while channeling you pop your f2 that around 2k healing. Renewed focus end restore your f2 and f3, you can use them again real fast that another block and 2k healing. So yeah renewed focus is very freaking good.

And i wont say everything about some synergy you can do with traits i let you guys figure it out.

This is going to have amazing Synergy with AH in all modes of PVP.

Svarty.8019:

Brutaly.6257:

what goes live??

It’s not live yet. I went in WvW and neither Renewed Focus nor Save Yourselves! were any different than before.

As been stated, its live and been for a very long time now.