Guild Wars 2

Scepter 1 and Torch 4, a tale of ranged woes.

~I feel ya, it’s happening to ALOT of people on ranged weps/attacks.
I hear it’s a terrain glitch (the ground is level I know) that’s hopefully addressed and fixed soon since I love to 1v1 in WvW…Great Vid thanx

There’s a similar video of a charr Guardian autoing an Asura on Khylo with the little guy strafing back and forth. I can’t seem to find it but this has been an issue for 3 years.

Obstructed! A GuardianEveryone weilding a ranged projectile weapon in WvW Story…

Fixed the title for you. You’re welcome!

Get in a ranged fight with any other profession and their ranged weapons.

Enjoy how terrible your Scepter and Torch are at 900-1200 range compared to everything else.

Done. Mostly play my Ranger in WvW. Having every kittening arrow shot while standing/moving on plain ground popping “Obstructed” is just the same.
Is it anoying? Yes it is. VERY anoying actually. Should it be fixed? Yes, most definetly. Is this issue something exclusive to Guardians? No, definetly not, sorry to disappoint you.

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Majic.4801:

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Scepter attacks are incredibly slow to the point where we want every molasses death orb to hit. Zealot’s Flame can be a single burst attack that, more often than not, can determine whether or not we win or lose a fight.

Other than that single knock back skill, Rangers do not have that issue as their skills are fast, trackable, on a relatively short CD, and your heart doesn’t skip a beat every time your potential 4k Zealots Flame gets “Obstructed”.

Saiyan.1704:

Majic.4801:

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Scepter attacks are incredibly slow to the point where we want every molasses death orb to hit. Zealot’s Flame can be a single burst attack that, more often than not, can determine whether or not we win or lose a fight.

Other than that single knock back skill, Rangers do not have that issue as their skills are fast, trackable, on a relatively short CD, and your heart doesn’t skip a beat every time your potential 4k Zealots Flame gets “Obstructed”.

Sure. Guardian has bad ranged options, we all know this. It doesn’t mean that the obstructed glitch doesn’t effect others. It’s a bug that needs to be fixed universally.

Lepre.2519:

Saiyan.1704:

Majic.4801:

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Scepter attacks are incredibly slow to the point where we want every molasses death orb to hit. Zealot’s Flame can be a single burst attack that, more often than not, can determine whether or not we win or lose a fight.

Other than that single knock back skill, Rangers do not have that issue as their skills are fast, trackable, on a relatively short CD, and your heart doesn’t skip a beat every time your potential 4k Zealots Flame gets “Obstructed”.

Sure. Guardian has bad ranged options, we all know this. It doesn’t mean that the obstructed glitch doesn’t effect others. It’s a bug that needs to be fixed universally.

All guard ranged weapons use a different type of projectile that fire not in an arc but follows the ground and it has a million more chances to bug. The specific projectile type in question need a fix not all classes

Saiyan.1704:

Majic.4801:

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Scepter attacks are incredibly slow to the point where we want every molasses death orb to hit. Zealot’s Flame can be a single burst attack that, more often than not, can determine whether or not we win or lose a fight.

Other than that single knock back skill, Rangers do not have that issue as their skills are fast, trackable, on a relatively short CD, and your heart doesn’t skip a beat every time your potential 4k Zealots Flame gets “Obstructed”.

Apologies, that’s ofc totally different than getting screwed potential ~10k rapid fire bursts completly over and over again, just to get burst down in return. How could I miss that apparency…

Alright, gonna leave this topic so our special snowflakes can keep feeling special

I play ranger I never had EVER an arrow obsructed for no reason

Appetite For Obstruction

RevanCorana.8942:

I play ranger I never had EVER an arrow obsructed for no reason

I don’t think anyone has seen an obstruction error for no reason. There’s always a reason.

In the case of the OP’s example video, it looks like the siege golem is the culprit, and it is common for objects to give that error, regardless of weapon. It’s not super clear from the video, but it seems likely circling around and attacking from a different direction might help — or not, depending on whether you can find a “sweet spot” that doesn’t give the error.

My failure to see this as a Guardian-specific problem or a problem especially grievous for Guardians is based on playing all the professions and, over 33 characters cultivated since launch, using every kind of weapon in the game on every profession that can use them.

What I have learned over the past three years is that obstruction errors can occur for almost any kind of attack, including melee attacks.

Obstruction errors can be caused by legitimate obstructions (landscape, props, walls) or by bugs in target models — most commonly attackable inanimate objects like the golem in this case, turrets, mines, doors, siege, etc. Because of apparent gaps in collision boxes, ranged attacks can also pass through objects and give “out of range” errors, while either doing damage to the target or not damaging it at all.

Like far too many other bugs, it has been that way since beta, and is the subject of countless bug reports that have, so far, yielded nothing.

It is true that direct-line ranged weapons like the Guardian scepter are more susceptible to obstruction errors, but rifles, pistols, staves, Mesmer greatswords and several other weapons also have direct-line attacks and are subject to the same problems. Bows and weapons with arcing projectile attacks are less susceptible in some cases (such as shooting mines on the ground that are otherwise obstructed), but can most definitely be obstructed as well.

So while I do sympathize with Guardians who encounter this problem, I also sympathize with anyone who does, regardless of profession, because everyone encounters this problem.

The solution is to fix these bugs so no one has to deal with them.

Only ArenaNet can do that, and only if they bother to.

Nash.2681:

Saiyan.1704:

Majic.4801:

Ezrael.6859:

The accuracy of your Shortbow and Longbow are nothing in comparison to how abysmal the Scepter is in terms of velocity and tracking.

So does that mean “obstructed” errors for professions other than Guardian are somehow unimportant?

Not quite following the logic there.

Scepter attacks are incredibly slow to the point where we want every molasses death orb to hit. Zealot’s Flame can be a single burst attack that, more often than not, can determine whether or not we win or lose a fight.

Other than that single knock back skill, Rangers do not have that issue as their skills are fast, trackable, on a relatively short CD, and your heart doesn’t skip a beat every time your potential 4k Zealots Flame gets “Obstructed”.

Apologies, that’s ofc totally different than getting screwed potential ~10k rapid fire bursts completly over and over again, just to get burst down in return. How could I miss that… -snip-

I’m starting to understand why you have Ez in your name, you must main Ranger.

Your class being nonviable isn’t our fault and it’s definitely not part of this discussion. You can still pull off that “10k rapid fire” while our incredibly slow and higher CD skills gets mitigated by a stump on the ground. At least your other 9 out of 10 arrows can still make contact.

You’re right about one thing, there’s no comparison between a Ranger and a Guardian. Hope they fix you guys.

Yea but scepter and torch also have low velocity projectiles making it even harder to land especially on moving target and it’s very likely to glitch out, way more than a mesmer GS or pistol/rifles.

It was stated obliquely but the Ranger whining somehow got in the way. This is an issue for all flat trajectory ground following projectiles.

Ranger arrows are not in that category. Do rangers get obstructed in surprising places? Sure. That still doesn’t make the flat trajectory ground tracking projectile problem relevant to rangers.