Guild Wars 2

I was wondering how an off-hand sword would work on a guardian, if we ever got access to one. Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing something like this:

Skill 4a: Zealous Retreat – Block the next attack. If blocked, the user is teleported away blinding nearby foes.
Skill 4b: Holy Slash – The user swings their sword in an arch, inflicting weakness onto the foes it hits.

Skill 5: Wrathful Wave – The user spins around once, striking each foe with greater intensity as he spins.

For some reason I find the idea of a Guardian dual wielding a bit odd……….not sure why I do really, it would be cool, but the image I have in my head is odd.

Anyways, I do like the idea of Zealous Retreat.

As much as I would love off-hand sword, it just does not really fit the whole devout psuedo-holy warrior concept of gaurdian. Also, i dont think either skill would really work, as the last thing we need is more defensive abilities, and also 2/3 of our offhands are more defensive in nature anyways.

Yes please to an off hand sword!

I think it would be good as an alternate offensive weapon to torch as the rest of our offhands are defensive. I’d personally liked to see some of that Torment condition on it and a crippler.

@Bash, why would it not fit the concept? If you think it’s cause they need a shield or defensive off hand only (focus), there’s plenty of shieldless examples in other games. Following these stereotype, a GS and Sword/Sword on Mesmers don’t make sense either, yet, there they are.

If it ever happens i’d like an offensive off-hand sword.

4a. Symbol of Judgement. Places a symbol on the ground, applying weakness to foes for 5 seconds.
4b. Pass Judgement. Detonates the symbol, dealing damage and stunning any foe inflicted with weakness for 1 second.
5. Impale your target, immobilising them for 2 seconds and dealing damage. Damage is scale up the further away your target is. a gap closer of sorts, and a situational nuke against runners.

I want a Main hand shield
Double Shield!

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Yes please to an off hand sword!

@Bash, why would it not fit the concept? If you think it’s cause they need a shield or defensive off hand only (focus), there’s plenty of shieldless examples in other games. Following these stereotype, a GS and Sword/Sword on Mesmers don’t make sense either, yet, there they are.

Totally agree with this. Why mesmer can equip GS and S/S?

IMO the style of guardian does not match to focus. The main hand sword is still lack of symbol skill, we should have this by off hand sword.

@lonewolf: I said right in my post that I would prefer an offensive offhand over another defensive offhand (which the OP suggest for offhand sword skills) so not sure why you think I want them to require only defensive ones.

I would honestly love for them to make spear an actual land weapon as well personally. Not the same exact skill set, but in general, just because I feel it fits the class better (being that is is pretty much a monk/paragon combination)

As for Mesmers, Sword I can see, being a fluid magic class that does not rely on straight casting, GS I never thought made sense in the least bit, and I am still not sure why they included it other than “well, we really do not have anything else that makes sense as a 2h.”

Well, I wouldn’t mind another offhand weapon, especially an offensive one since I don’t like the torch very much. So the sword would be a good choice for that purpose, because it would fit the image of a zealot, which is part of the class. However, I fear that another offensive offhand might have one of two consequences: Either it will be more or less useless or, if it is actually useful, it will probably make the offensive guardian pretty overpowered (at least in PvE).

Not to derail you post, but I think a off-hand offensive mace would be better suited for the guardian. something like a ground smash to send foes flying and teleport to foe healing allies and burning foes in a 240 area around you

Give us flails!

Geez people with the off topic posts. make your own! This is about off hand swords, not off hand X and you fill in the blank.

/rant off.

@Bash, sorry, my reading comprehension skills was lacking aparently. I see what you mean now about the offensive side for a new offhand.

@CptAurellian, yes and no, but I think putting Torment and a crippler/chiller/immobiler, etc. would make perfect sense for this class, and what better way than to put it on an offhand sword?

If I suggested an off-hand greatsword is that ok? A greatsword is a sword!

And who wouldn’t to wield two greatswords!

Blasino.3128:

If I suggested an off-hand greatsword is that ok? A greatsword is a sword!

And who wouldn’t to wield two greatswords!

Ooooooooo yeah!

Main hand shield, make it happen Anet!!!!

Wolfheart.1938:

Main hand shield, make it happen Anet!!!!

Off topic post is off topic. /eyeroll

When do you guys think the SAB skins will skyrocket in price?

I think an offhand mace would serve the guardian better than an offhand sword.

I think guardian as well as other classes should be able to use sword off-hand. Though I love using torch, I would gladly give up it for a sword. Guards already have enough defensive abilities and skills.

Then you are a warrior.

TriggerSad.2597:

Skill 4a: Zealous Retreat – Block the next attack. If blocked, the user is teleported away blinding nearby foes.
Skill 5: Wrathful Wave – The user spins around once, striking each foe with greater intensity as he spins.

I always support more weapons for any class. I especially like the idea of Zealous Retreat but I do remember some Devs in a video explaining they purposefully have given Guardians several ways to jump into a fight but not out of one.

It must be one of their philosophies for the class which I don’t mind calling stupid. Mobility is King in this game, what good is a philosophy if its not practical.

I would prefer an off-hand mace with skills like a single target pull (900 range) to the guardian and a spin attacks with extendible mace-heads animation.

^^ that would be kind of cool. an offhand mace could include a skill that pulls with an animation like a flail, you’re saying

buuuuuuuut back on topic. ; )) i too wouldn’t mind a more offensive offhand sword. and defs wouldn’t mind a symbol for the s/s. so mace not being the only option for symbols when going 1h or RHS. i can see it, the Guardian gripping both swords and stabbing them into the ground for a symbol. it could tick burns instead and maybe give 1s fury ticks since our other symbols give defensive boons and we don’t have a lot of access to fury. breaking the mould, but hey.

akamon.2769:

^^ that would be kind of cool. an offhand mace could include a skill that pulls with an animation like a flail, you’re saying

buuuuuuuut back on topic. ; )) i too wouldn’t mind a more offensive offhand sword. and defs wouldn’t mind a symbol for the s/s. so mace not being the only option for symbols when going 1h or RHS. i can see it, the Guardian gripping both swords and stabbing them into the ground for a symbol. it could tick burns instead and maybe give 1s fury ticks since our other symbols give defensive boons and we don’t have a lot of access to fury. breaking the mould, but hey.

That would be sort of like the GS #4 anim. I like it! Very nice idea!

Kukchi.6173:

Then you are a warrior.

Tbh I’m not entirely convinced warrior and guardian were originally meant to be different classes.

I could see a guardian using an offhand mace over an offhand sword. Dual maces seems like it would fit but dual swords doesn’t seem right.

Bash.7291:

As much as I would love off-hand sword, it just does not really fit the whole devout psuedo-holy warrior concept of gaurdian. Also, i dont think either skill would really work, as the last thing we need is more defensive abilities, and also 2/3 of our offhands are more defensive in nature anyways.

I can see where you’re coming from with this, but the guardian also has the ability to become a zealot, which has some connotations to being very offensive oriented. The idea of a s/s guardian would fit then. And I agree that an off-hand sword would need to be more offensive, I just like the idea of a guardian that can teleport in and out of battle (I’m a meditations guardian, so I LOVE the zipping all over the place).

Silv.9207:

I want a Main hand shield
Double Shield!

lol This post brings me back to when the guardian had been revealed yet, and people had dubbed it the BML (Blue Mace Lady, and this was due to the only concept art that we had of it being a female humanoid wielding a mace and shield). Dual-wielding shields does sound like a lot of fun!!

Fairymore.8609:

TriggerSad.2597:

Skill 4a: Zealous Retreat – Block the next attack. If blocked, the user is teleported away blinding nearby foes.
Skill 5: Wrathful Wave – The user spins around once, striking each foe with greater intensity as he spins.

I always support more weapons for any class. I especially like the idea of Zealous Retreat but I do remember some Devs in a video explaining they purposefully have given Guardians several ways to jump into a fight but not out of one.

It must be one of their philosophies for the class which I don’t mind calling stupid. Mobility is King in this game, what good is a philosophy if its not practical.

I actually forgot about that!! Yeah… Guess a skill that has you leaving the battlefield as opposed to staying in the fray isn’t very guardian-like…

Axxo.7430:

I would prefer an off-hand mace with skills like a single target pull (900 range) to the guardian and a spin attacks with extendible mace-heads animation.

I like the idea of an off-hand mace too! Though I’d personally see it as a pure defense melee weapons to help synergies with the main-hand mace, while giving the sword a better melee companion. Focus works well, but it can easily be used offensively while in a fight, and shield… I’ve always seen shield as a more ranged defense/support off-hand.

OH mace would be preferable, add a symbol making symbol builds more effective as they are somewhat lacking atm.

Bad idea, imho. As long as the mainhand mace can create a symbol, no offhand weapon should have its own one. Rather make the symbols themselves more interesting and give some to the weapons lacking it, but don’t give two symbols to a single wepon set.

Guard really could use a DPS offhand. Torch is just awful with its long channel and being mostly condition based. Focus shield burst is ok but focus was clearly ment to be more defensive.

Combine the off-hand sword with a sword and do Darth Maul crap!

I just came up with another possible skill for the off-hand sword!
I don’t have a name for it, but I do have its functionality;
Become a beam of light and shoot yourself to target foe, dealing damage to other foes you pass.
It could have a blast finisher at the end when it stops at the target. Yes? No?

Definately yes!

I don’t like this idea. As a cleric I don’t think it suits the class.
Mace and shield 100% cleric. Hammer still fine since blunt weapon. Greatsword… not really; but can pass as some sort of paladin. Sword and torch is also acceptable as it looks like a zealot. Focus also suits the cleric.
But anything ranging dual weilding, battleaxes, axes, warhorns, longbows, daggers and simillar just doesn’t fit.

Silv.9207:

I want a Main hand shield
Double Shield!

ahahahah your are a great.
I also suggest a 2 hand shield! for a big defense!

Pleurodesed.7625:

I don’t like this idea. As a cleric I don’t think it suits the class.
Mace and shield 100% cleric. Hammer still fine since blunt weapon. Greatsword… not really; but can pass as some sort of paladin. Sword and torch is also acceptable as it looks like a zealot. Focus also suits the cleric.
But anything ranging dual weilding, battleaxes, axes, warhorns, longbows, daggers and simillar just doesn’t fit.

Errmmmm….. Wrong game bub.

D&D is that way —-—>

I think a sword offhand should be more offensive/movement-based.

A mace offhand should be more defensive/healing based.

What would be really interesting would be if we got axes. I think that would be more condition based.

The only weapon that feels un-guardian to me is daggers, but I’m sure somebody could make an argument for that.

Pleurodesed.7625:

I don’t like this idea. As a cleric I don’t think it suits the class.
Mace and shield 100% cleric. Hammer still fine since blunt weapon. Greatsword… not really; but can pass as some sort of paladin. Sword and torch is also acceptable as it looks like a zealot. Focus also suits the cleric.
But anything ranging dual weilding, battleaxes, axes, warhorns, longbows, daggers and simillar just doesn’t fit.

A dual-sword guardian can fit the zealot look too imo.
Though there are professions in this game that wield weapons that most people would do a double take when seeing them in action; see Greatsword mesmers.
Still, they’re in the game and ArenaNet can make them work as I’m sure they’ll be able to pull off an off-hand sword for the guardian.

Shield Main Hand, sword off-hand

Wolfheart.1938:

Main hand shield, make it happen Anet!!!!

1a. bash Your foe, You have 20% chance to daze
1b.cut Yourfoe with the edge oh the shield it inflict burn
1c.bash Your foe once again gaining protection
2. charge to you foe with a powerfull shield bash stunning them
3. hide behind Your shield blocking any incoming atack – if atack is blocked burn the atacker

so we have a skills we can have now shield mainhand
then just ask for sword off-hand and we can be leftsided guardians

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Wolfheart.1938:

Main hand shield, make it happen Anet!!!!

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so we have a skills we can have now shield mainhand
then just ask for sword off-hand and we can be leftsided guardians

Haha I love it. Left-handed guardians!

I think an off-hand sword would serve as a good offensive support off-hand. This is something I think we lack.

Attack 4: Righteous Slash: Teleports to target, attacks (0.2 coefficient) applies 5 stacks of vulnerability for 10 seconds. 20 second coolodwn.
Attack 5: Furious Flames: AoE attack (1 coefficient) that can hit up to 5 enemies 600 ranged, apply 3 seconds of burning, and 5 seconds of fury on Allies. 35 second cooldown.

Blasino.3128:

I think an off-hand sword would serve as a good offensive support off-hand. This is something I think we lack.

Attack 4: Righteous Slash: Teleports to target, attacks (0.2 coefficient) applies 5 stacks of vulnerability for 10 seconds. 20 second coolodwn.
Attack 5: Furious Flames: AoE attack (1 coefficient) that can hit up to 5 enemies 600 ranged, apply 3 seconds of burning, and 5 seconds of fury on Allies. 35 second cooldown.

I like the idea of Furious Flames, but I’m not really up for having the off-hand sword be a ranged weapon. I’d rather prefer it be treated as a pure melee weapon. I mean out other off-hands already have ranged based attacks: Focus has RoK, Shield has Shield of Judgment (though it is a rather short-range attack), and both of the torches skills offer ranged attacks.

I could take that if that would provide that self-blue-flaming efect like torch#4 skill

Screw offhand sword.

Double Meteorlogist for the win! >)