Guild Wars 2

From all the freaking patches that involve changes literally all of them, they have nerf the elite specialization from this profession.
What is there final final plan break the profession/elite to the ground ? Ruin it (so) bad reduce the population of the guard/DH make them useless on all game modes
Is this what they want ? Was it so powerful at launch of HOT?.
That they resulted in killing it slowly in each ’’balance patche,,

Specializations probably will still get some nerfs due they are broadly more powerfull than vanilla classes in most of the game modes, and the next expansion needs to set a new level in “opness” for the new specializations -no one is going to buy an exp if his main new spec is worse than before-.

Said this, DH is arguably strong in sPvP, duels and roaming, plus vanilla Guardian is still the backbone in any WvW raid/scrim. The only departments at which I would call them “meh” is at high fractals/raids, but sooner or later those contents would be so facerrolling with any class as dungeons are now.

Wow, what game are you playing? Guard/DH useless in all game modes? Sensational much? Guard/DH are very much useful in all modes of this game. There are some dark spots but ‘useless’ is certainly not an accurate word to describe this class right now in this game.

^This.

Every nerf the DH got was generally reasonable and deserved. Compared to some other nerfs, DH nerfs weren’t even that bad.

Revalue/redesign trap CD… i can still lure players to the last place i dropped traps while my traps CD is recovered so its 2-3 more traps after targets eat up all in the face the placed traps.

Unskilled IMO.

Decrease trap CD and makes traps enter in CD only after getting hitted, start from there.

Buran.3796:

The only departments at which I would call them “meh” is at high fractals/raids, but sooner or later those contents would be so facerrolling with any class as dungeons are now.

lmao ok

Please come back when Dragonhunter resembles Reaper.

Buran.3796:

The only departments at which I would call them “meh” is at high fractals/raids

this is so cute

Buran.3796:

The only departments at which I would call them “meh” is at high fractals/raids

What class do you see as ‘good’ in high fractals then? Warriors that are forced in range and cant stack might? Necros that can be played by chimps? Mesmers that have to rely on others to not to suck, because all they are allowed to do is support and 0 damage? I can go on.

Guards is one of the (if not the) most adaptable classes in the game and they have a lot of builds that are viable and can work in different situations, so much so that every weapon is viable at some point (even staff when running or pre wall). Unless you are in a premade comp in paperland where everything is orderly and dandy (and even then), Guard is a top pick. Its a very pug friendly class that can provide anything your group needs and can even carry them.

Lahmia.2193:

Please come back when Dragonhunter resembles Reaper.

how to win against necros… dont use boons

Aeolus.3615:

Lahmia.2193:

Please come back when Dragonhunter resembles Reaper.

how to win against necros… dont use boons

I play necro. I wish reaper still resembled something as good as dragonhunter. That is what I meant.

Lahmia.2193:

Aeolus.3615:

Lahmia.2193:

Please come back when Dragonhunter resembles Reaper.

how to win against necros… dont use boons

I play necro. I wish reaper still resembled something as good as dragonhunter. That is what I meant.

Necro atm migh be ocupying the place that guardians did before the QoL changes.
DH is only good cause it is a gimmick that makes damage with meditations and traps, and that is all u need in this game, outside medi trapper what works on that class to?
Necro (reapers)just needs to gain more force deppending the number of targets hitting, a few rework on traitd and they could be decent melee bruisers, that can play with some conditions.

as exemple “chilling victory makes no sense that trait alot for a elite spec” needs to be merged with “soul eater” and then tested and tweaked if necessary.

“Reappers onslought” need to refill x% of every player u kill, and y% from downed players, if downed players gets hit apply some condition on target or gain a boon from it… something like that.

And btw Lahmia.2193 i know u play necro.

Core guardian did get some significant buffs in the update before the last season.

I think they’re at least making an attempt to normalise core builds with elite specialisations. However, they don’t want to nerf a profession right out of the game, so they’re starting by buffing the core, and then they’re trimming things down, including the elite specialisation – probably with the hope that, by the time the next expansion rolls around, the current elite specs will genuinely be a choice rather than ‘of course you have this, because if you don’t you’re objectively weaker’.

Core guardians got buffed last time around, and this time around DH got pared back a bit. Similar to how core necros got buffed before season 2, ruled through the season, and reapers have been steadily pared back since (possibly too far, in the current meta, but it’s possible that they’re still looking to bring other elite specialisations down rather than buff necro up).

Come on admit it they hate us, the devs nerf the hell out of DH so badly i find near no skills or ability is usefull, the DH trait was soo fkt up no traps no blocks even the core the virtues were nerf up.
What is next the spear of justice if they nerf that they can delete the elite right away

You can delete the elite right away if you think its useless. Rest of us enjoy playing Guardians.

I love my guardian in PvP and Open world HOT maps.

As a DH, I wish I was a reaper which is 1000% required on every competitive team.

Only thing is that .. The community is awful in this thing.
Guardian/DH is 3rd highest DPS class after Ele and Thief.
But of course people (on raids) rather take one more Ele on squad than a guardian, which could be useful at some bosses ( as with Symbolic boons and reflects) ..

You know people somehow made raid playable in one fixated build and they nearly removed the possibility to take Guard or engi to raid.. of course there are exceptions i very proud about.

But still i love playing my lovely Guardian, it’s my main character, I play him in every mode and altough some people don’t admire him .. i don’t really mind ^^

Hayden.2091:

Only thing is that .. The community is awful in this thing.
Guardian/DH is 3rd highest DPS class after Ele and Thief.
But of course people (on raids) rather take one more Ele on squad than a guardian, which could be useful at some bosses ( as with Symbolic boons and reflects) ..

You know people somehow made raid playable in one fixated build and they nearly removed the possibility to take Guard or engi to raid.. of course there are exceptions i very proud about.

But still i love playing my lovely Guardian, it’s my main character, I play him in every mode and altough some people don’t admire him .. i don’t really mind ^^

Well that’s not exactly true. Engi and base condi ranger both have more DPS. That being said there are a lot of reasons to swap out a second ele with guardian or another class. But pugs will be pugs…

cranos.5913:

Hayden.2091:

Only thing is that .. The community is awful in this thing.
Guardian/DH is 3rd highest DPS class after Ele and Thief.
But of course people (on raids) rather take one more Ele on squad than a guardian, which could be useful at some bosses ( as with Symbolic boons and reflects) ..

You know people somehow made raid playable in one fixated build and they nearly removed the possibility to take Guard or engi to raid.. of course there are exceptions i very proud about.

But still i love playing my lovely Guardian, it’s my main character, I play him in every mode and altough some people don’t admire him .. i don’t really mind ^^

Well that’s not exactly true. Engi and base condi ranger both have more DPS. That being said there are a lot of reasons to swap out a second ele with guardian or another class. But pugs will be pugs…

Pretty much this, most full pug groups are essentially Lemmings and look to others to tell them what works and they will not deviate because they don’t know any better, I know my guild two nights ago cleared a bit quiet easily using a Rev and a Guardian in their raid group with one Chrono, but pugs would say that will never work.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

cranos.5913:

Hayden.2091:

Only thing is that .. The community is awful in this thing.
Guardian/DH is 3rd highest DPS class after Ele and Thief.
But of course people (on raids) rather take one more Ele on squad than a guardian, which could be useful at some bosses ( as with Symbolic boons and reflects) ..

You know people somehow made raid playable in one fixated build and they nearly removed the possibility to take Guard or engi to raid.. of course there are exceptions i very proud about.

But still i love playing my lovely Guardian, it’s my main character, I play him in every mode and altough some people don’t admire him .. i don’t really mind ^^

Well that’s not exactly true. Engi and base condi ranger both have more DPS. That being said there are a lot of reasons to swap out a second ele with guardian or another class. But pugs will be pugs…

Pretty much this, most full pug groups are essentially Lemmings and look to others to tell them what works and they will not deviate because they don’t know any better, I know my guild two nights ago cleared a bit quiet easily using a Rev and a Guardian in their raid group with one Chrono, but pugs would say that will never work.

Funny part is the ppl they look towards from hc guilds like qT almost all run a guard in their recent vids, but spreadsheet math is all that matters I guess.