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Posted by: Ashtaeroth.3940

Ashtaeroth.3940

So, hey. I haven’t found anything quite like this and while I’m having great fun with it in WvW am curious of what others think about it. Basicly the thought of an offensive support, am a team player after all, instead of the defensive support came to me while tinkering with new and weird options.

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So the idea is the Permeating Wrath trait here which makes the passive VoJ go aoe on you and how to put that into decent use. Burning is a kind of so, so and tricky since it’s heavily dependant on the duration, damage ticks after 1 full second, but with Supreme Justice it procs every 3 hits, symbols/Purging Flames are also affected so mace/staff get nice there too. While passive burning doesn’t have that high scaling with condition damage it’s all about how often you can push it onto your enemies, no? Staff hits wide area and max 5 + symbol if you throw it into a group small or big and I’ve noticed everything around me is suddenly in flames.

The build-editor isn’t accurate about the passive VoJ for some reason. It starts with 1 second and can only reach 2 seconds with 100% condition duration, so the real damage is aroung ~600dmg. And since lots of people are running about with -40% condi duration this becomes an issue but I think I’ve managed to even it out. I had Defender’s Flame trait at start but am not sure if I should change Shelter for more healing from the signet, the block works nicely at times. Also the regeneration from Hold the Line/Virtue/focus/mace add up decently and it’s area effect aswell, and protection.

Why Celestial trinkets? Well, I happen to literally change my builds about every 3 weeks so it’s more cost friendly for me. Health is nothing awesome but I manage with it and armor is decent as Strength in Numbers affect you and your allies everytime you take damage, even if just falling damage. while physical damage isn’t that awesome I’ve noticed that I can put up decent pressure on enemies when I run around flailing my staff and trying to trap them with Line of Warding. I mean with all the defensive abilities you could have I’ve seen alot of 400-500 burning damage per second + what staff/mace does physical, and people start to panic/run away from me when they notice what’s going on.

I do have sword/focus aswell because of the teleport to catch those slippery thieves and warriors. Conditions are something I’ve yet to solve because Purging Flames is practically my only removal in this. Backstab thieves are not a big issue because of the amount of blocks in this and usually I can survive the initial hit to get some of them on. Do notice that this doesn’t suit for roaming in anyway, I’ve sadly been downed more than once while trying. So, what do you think? Suggestions and constructive critism is welcomed.

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

Supreme Justice is pretty worthless. Pick up Absolute Resolution instead. That’s a big one especially in WvW where you can actually make use of its 1200 range – your party doesn’t have to be right on top of you like they do with Shouts and Purging Flames.

Focus Mastery isn’t doing anything for you. You’d be better off dropping 10 out of Zeal and putting it someplace else. You can either just go ahead and do full Altruistic Healing or do 10 Honor instead of Vigor and Shout cooldowns, which would be pretty nice for Stand Your Ground.

Permeating Wrath, while fun, is outclassed by Indomitable Courage. IC gives you Stability when you pop Courage, which allows you to guarantee a stomp as long as you aren’t outright killed during the animation. That’s huge in WvW, and typically a lot more compelling than a minor increase in your AOE DPS.

Eilir Eirasdottir, Guardian, Tarnished Coast
Painbow.6059: Ignore what anyone else who doesn’t agree with me has said because its wrong.

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Posted by: Arlette.9684

Arlette.9684

Just looking at the stats, this build has:

Low Power
Low Precision
Ok Toughness (for a dps, for a bunker very low)
Low vitality
Average Healing Power
Low Condition damage
Average critical damage (meaningless considering the precision)
1 blind on 20 second cooldown
No Vigor, twice as little dodge rolls.

I’m not sure if you’re serious or trolling but…

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner, we need to sticky this thread and rename it,
“What not to do, when building a Guardian!”

Moira Dreamweaver lvl 80 Guardian [TG], Sky Mira lvl 80 Ranger [TG]
Isle of Janthir
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Posted by: Ashtaeroth.3940

Ashtaeroth.3940

It is actually an effort to find new ways to play this class, instead of giving boons, doing raw damage or being a self-sufficient. When compared to other classes guardian has little variety while still being effective more or less I think. But you are correct about the focus mastery foofad, mostly using Shield of Wrath as a blast finisher on combo fields and as a block in smaller fights. There was also the compelling +10% condition duration. Condition build for a guardian is really doomed to failure.

And also while power and condition damage is low 15 might stacks and 25 bloodlust do lift those to an average levels. The critical damage comes from the Celestial trinkets and like I wrote there somewhere those are just my preferences, by no means did I even try to focus on critical damage. Vigor? I haven’t really needed to roll anywhere because of the blocks I carry in this. Would really hope they change how the burning is done, it’s really just a frosting on the cake when playing guardian. And I wouldn’t call 811 healing power exactly as low.

Keep an open mind would you? While pointing out the flaws is good it still offers little improvement. Am still gonna run around with this for a while since, yes, Permeating Wrath is fun.