Proposed change: Light Whirl Combo

Proposed change: Light Whirl Combo

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Posted by: Turtle Dragon.9241

Turtle Dragon.9241

Right now, Light Field + Whirl Finisher seems to be really underwhelming and weak to use as a combo. Most people just use Light Fields for Retaliation by Leap/Blast, the other 2 are practically never used(at least very rarely used correctly).

So, I have 2 proposed changes.
EITHER
1. Make Cleansing Bolts target enemies just like all other Whirl combos.
Whenever Cleansing Bolt hits an enemy, you transfer one of the following conditions on yourself to that enemy: Bleeding, Poison, Torment, Burning, Confusion. Then the new condition applied in this way deals damage relative to the Light Whirl combo user’s Condition Damage stats.

Why are the consequences?
Condition Damage Guardian instantly becomes viable in PvP. Whenever faced with another Condition user, you become an instant counter to them, by taking their own DoT or Confusion that they applied to you, and returning it to them with your own Condition Damage stats. It also has good synergy with Save Yourselves in a way.

Why is this not OP?
Simple, if you are not facing someone who is applying DoT/Confusion conditions on you, your build becomes useless. It is a counter build that is specific for certain situations. Cleansing Bolts is meant to remove a condition anyway, but it is not doing a great job at it with its current state.

OR
2. Make Cleansing Bolts target small portions of the ground.
Just like Engineers dropping Med Kits and other little items on the ground, that on pick-up heals/removes conditions. When activated, Cleansing Bolts create a small Light Orb on the ground that stays. When a party member who has a condition picks it up, they lose 1 condition.

Proposed change: Light Whirl Combo

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Actually, you’d be surprised how useful the current combo is in dungeons like AC. What does need fixing is the projectile finisher – it only affects allies who stand right next to the target.

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Proposed change: Light Whirl Combo

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

Tongku.5326

I love this combo in group fights. What you have to realize is its balanced for team vs team play, not solo vs solo, and that it is underwhelming when people in your group are not used to it.

Everyone knows about blasting water fields and fire fields, but not everyone knows about whirling through lightfields.

On our frontline we often put down 1-2 Walls of Reflection, which are already powerful by default on what they do. Then we have specifically 2 GS users (guard , war) and 1 ele in tornado roll through it back and forth. It provides so much condition cleansing its unbelievable.

I suggest for your next time to try this out, assign 1 such ele (note: needs to be a frontline ele, not squishy) and 2 other players before the fight. Practice a little on various terrain. Time it. You dont wanna waste the tornado. Use it when being stacked with conditions. You will see the difference in the combo performance very plainly.

So sorry, but I have to disagree with you on its effectiveness, it is very effective and I think your problem is with your teams execution of it. Do you have dedicated people to execute the combo ? Do you call it out ? Do you time it during engagements for max effect ?

Heavy Deedz – COSA – SF

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