Guild Wars 2

This trait basically allows guardians to stack up boons from revivals, because there is no internal cooldown on the boons, just the shield. There needs to be a cooldown on the boons applied, because this can be, and is being abused, especially in wvw.

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Meh. I’ll allow it.

The ICD is once per dead person. 3 months of aegis will still only block one attack, and corruption/stealing doesn’t care how many revives you had to make.

It would be a different issue if the boons procced on initiating a revive

Ghotistyx.6942:

The ICD is once per dead person. 3 months of aegis will still only block one attack, and corruption/stealing doesn’t care how many revives you had to make.

It would be a different issue if the boons procced on initiating a revive

It is not just aegis, it gives protection as well, which can continue to be stacked without any cooldown. A lot of PvP/WvW guardian builds also include traits focused on aegis which makes this trait all the more problematic since there is no cooldown. Throw in some mercy runes, and you basically have guardians running permanent protection during fights, and just way to much aegis.

Yes; Aegis, Protection, and Regen. If you don’t already have an answer for Prot and Regen, it doesn’t really matter how much they have. Aegis just needs a poke to go away. And again, it requires revives. If they want to build to be the best revivers they can definitely do that. It relies on their group coming from a place of weakness to take advantage of. Either kill their downs or remove their boons. Guardians cannot share their boons beyond the skill’s mechanics. It’s like complaining about Warriors getting too much Might or Eles sharing too many auras because of all the revives they’re performing. The opportunity cost is a successful revive. That can cost a lot to accomplish.

Ghotistyx.6942:

Yes; Aegis, Protection, and Regen. If you don’t already have an answer for Prot and Regen, it doesn’t really matter how much they have. Aegis just needs a poke to go away. And again, it requires revives. If they want to build to be the best revivers they can definitely do that. It relies on their group coming from a place of weakness to take advantage of. Either kill their downs or remove their boons. Guardians cannot share their boons beyond the skill’s mechanics. It’s like complaining about Warriors getting too much Might or Eles sharing too many auras because of all the revives they’re performing. The opportunity cost is a successful revive. That can cost a lot to accomplish.

Why do you assume the guardian is the only one doing the resurrecting, you just need credit for the rez for the boons to take effect. Aegis is effected by several different traits which are often used in wvw, and idk how often you do wvw, but you would understand why constant aegis and perma protection application is a problem. It doesn’t matter if it is stripped if you can just keep reapplying it by simply rezzing someone.

And yet, you still need people to rez

Ghotistyx.6942:

And yet, you still need people to rez

Mind if I ask, do you play wvw? No offense intended, but I can understand that if your more into pve you wouldn’t look at it the same way I do.

I play all gamemodes. PvP the least

Is protection really that big of an issue in WvW? I haven’t played WvW in about two months and at the time it was just a massive condi/burst fest.

So is this in zerg WvW where protection won’t really save you if you’re focused by 5+ or is this in small scale fights?

phokus.8934:

Is protection really that big of an issue in WvW? I haven’t played WvW in about two months and at the time it was just a massive condi/burst fest.

So is this in zerg WvW where protection won’t really save you if you’re focused by 5+ or is this in small scale fights?

Boonstacking/sharing has been the meta in wvw for some time now since HoT was released. Perma protection for guardians is a big deal in wvw. Now I am not even suggesting that the boons be changed or removed, just to put an internal cooldown on them so they cannot be stacked up constantly just by getting credit for a rez. I dont think that is unreasonable at all. This trait is pretty much used by every guard in wvw that runs in a zerg group, and the aegis especially is connected to other traits which are often used in wvw builds.

As far as PvE/PvP, I honestly don’t know how much this trait gets used and therefore I don’t know the effect it has. But either way I think its broken.

I guess we’ll see what happens with the balance update. Boon sharing is getting tweaked (read, nerfed) but we’ll see to what extent.

Sounds reasonable, more so than other nerf calls.

It’s a strong trait for rezzing for sure, though the idea of the trait is to help ensure the person you’ve rezzed stays alive a bit easier after getting them up, and sure you get boons, but it still requires a rez and it’s one person at a time. Regen is a fairly common boon, that can stem from other professions easily. Same with protection. There’s also boon corrupts that fly around in those zerg battles as well, not to mention many downed bodies close together is great bait for well bombs. Boon share is getting nerfed on Mesmer and Revenant, specifically because they can easily cap out on 100% duration, and Signet of Inspiration gives can spread pretty much every boon you have on you with max stacks and and really long duration to everyone.

I don’t really view this trait as a problem, and for the past 4 years it’s never been considered a problem either. Quite frankly, there are much better sources of protection and regeneration that don’t involve the risk of having to be downed and revived (like Boon Share Mesmers and Herald Revs).