Guild Wars 2

Pure of Heart healing=645+0.5*healing power

Does anyone else feel like this healing coefficient could use a boost?

And on the same token, is the Retreat shout (40s CD, 32 traited) up to par in terms of the CD?

Retreat is a really simple skill. Too simple honestly. It should either be made into a stun break or receive a CD reduction… A 34 second base CD would be… okay

A .5 healing coefficent is really high comparatively, especially for a skill that doesn’t seem to have an internal cooldown.

Indure.5410:

A .5 healing coefficent is really high comparatively, especially for a skill that doesn’t seem to have an internal cooldown.

I guess I’m just spoiled from using Life from Death, which has a beefy healing coefficient of 1.5: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Life_from_Death

There’s no internal cooldown but the CD’s of all Aegis skills are pretty enormous with the exception of Shield 4 : /

If you compare it to Selfless Daring (with Cleric’s Amulet), Pure of Heart is only 100 less healing. With less healing power Pure of Heart is going to be better. And with F3, shield 4, and Retreat easier to apply to party members.

Given that they said that guardian was falling behind in how well it could cleanse conditions it is far past time they look at the shouts.

Retreat could stand to be 30 seconds base.

Hold The line could also stand to see some serious improvements.
Say up the protection duration to 6 seconds base & up the regeneration to 8 seconds base then lower the Cd to 30 seconds.

This would go a way towards making shouts closer to meta.

After that they would just need to look at hammer, scepter, staff, sword, signets and consecrations……..

They could start with reversing the nerf they did on Pure of Voice (shouts removing 2 condies instead of one) back when there was less condiespam in game

Salamander.2504, it is healing power overall scaling, guard need to sacrifice a good amount for healing power to be noticeable, and that is a huge drawback for guardians, that does not bring good results either.

“Retreat!” could use a slight boost. Even if they lower it to 30 or 35 second recharge , with the Pure of Voice trait you’re looking at best at swiftness for 5 people (something the Herald can reapply every 3 seconds ; Charge on warrior warhorn is far superior) because Aegis blocks one attack. Also necromancers gained many boon strips ; it’s better to have Retreat with a slightly lower duration (say 15s instead of 20s) than to have it longer duration.

Maybe “Retreat!” could remove immobilized , grant superspeed for 5s if chilled (such that the cooldown reduction is not affected but the speed reduction is), and be lowered to 30s base recharge (i.e. 20 second / 24 second with Pure of Voice so 4 second downtime).

Most of the time Virtue of Courage is used for stability in conjunction with Indomitable Courage.

As far as Pure of heart , I don’t think that it needs much help: if it healed on block that’d probably be enough. If it healed on block then mace would be much stronger sustain than it is currently (Protector’s Strike ; along with Shield of Wrath and Shelter). Keep in mind that shield 4 , Fragments of Faith , and Superior Rune of the Defender exist. With Indomitable Courage pretty standard, you’re looking at multiple sources of Aegis.

Retreat is great. It removing soft cc might be nice too; to make it comparable to its peers.

Pure of heart is incredibly mediocre. But I could say the same about its peer traits.

ArchonWing.9480:

Retreat is great. It removing soft cc might be nice too; to make it comparable to its peers.

Pure of heart is incredibly mediocre. But I could say the same about its peer traits.

X) a CD reduce on retreat would make wonders.

trooper runes+traited shouts+remove condis on block+ heal or damage on aegis destruction.

Altough the heal on aegis is… meh…need alot of investement to be anything helpfull, any investement on that would not be much clever.

Also guardians need more vitatlity or fix healing power lelvels, to actually make the low hp, since toughness is useless in this game.

Aeolus, toughness isn’t useless. If you run 2100-2300 armor in WvW as a frontline you will melt.

ArchonWing.9480:

Retreat is great. It removing soft cc might be nice too; to make it comparable to its peers.

Pure of heart is incredibly mediocre. But I could say the same about its peer traits.

Interesting concept. If Retreat remove all soft CCs (chill, cripple and Immo) It would be a lot more useful.

But I think that a cooldown reduction (say 30s) would make more sense so it would pair up with Pure of Voice and Pure of Heart better, making these traits more viable.

Hold the line also should have a CD decrease, like 30s. It is very small, but would be a great improvement to support builds.

I have a shout build, it is too far from viable builds. Does not worth now.

I would love 20s of swiftness on a 30s cooldown. That means a Pure of Voice +Honorable Staff build would have 100% swiftness uptime.

Indure.5410:

I would love 20s of swiftness on a 30s cooldown. That means a Pure of Voice +Honorable Staff build would have 100% swiftness uptime.

Actually if you were using pack runes, runes of air etc… (something with +30% boon duration or swiftness duration) you could reach 100% swiftness uptime with retreat alone if it had a 30 second base CD & you took pure of voice.

pure of heart healing can already get stupidly high if you spec for it. The base is a little underwhelming and could be higher but the coeficent should not change. same goes for selfless daring (and even more so)

The healing can get out of hand fast if you put too much of a coefficient on the Pure of Heart.

We had 2 guards with communal defense and pure of heart. So every 7 seconds a communal defense will trigger and give everyone an aegis in blast radius of you. If you have invested in healing power as a supportish style guard your Pure of Heart will heal for about 1k.

Then you have Retreat and the shield 4, Virtue of Courage, which you can reset with RF or by picking someone up, which also gives them and yourself aegis via Protective Reviver.

Aegis counts as a block for Communal Defense and can come off another Guards Aegis, so if Guard no.2 blocks and triggers communal defense, you get Aegis(and everyone else), your Aegis blocks an attack everyone gets aegis again. I guess thats why the internal cooldown for communal defense is at 15 seconds as that would escalate quickly.

This is all passive healing as well, no switching to staff to empower or setting up your blasts with a water field.

Retreat: aegis
shield 4: aegis
mace 3: block
Valorous Defense: aegis
Courageous Return: aegis
Protective Reviver: aegis
Retaliatory Subconscious: aegis
Shelter: block
Hunter’s Determination: aegis
Shield of Courage: block & aegis
Shield of Wrath: block
Virtue of Courage: aegis

Infusion.7149:

Aeolus, toughness isn’t useless. If you run 2100-2300 armor in WvW as a frontline you will melt.

all we need is blob up 20-30 Dh trappers and portal trap bomb and try to take portal back to avoid the AOE sea of red circles , :|, i dont remmember when was the last time i played melee.
Or do portal bombs with stacked group of reapers.
Or both :<.

Pure of Heart turns the aegis trap into another heal. Combine it with the aegis trap on cc trait for ridinkydonk sustain. Take the condition removal on block trait and you got a heal that removes conditions.