Guild Wars 2

It doesn’t seem to be that popular and i was curious about how it would roll so i made this build. It looks good and I had a few good experiences with it., wanted to know your opinion about it though. It’s a midway between burn and medi guardian.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQNAR8flsAhqhY5QwbIwPEHBE1dbjgMwGAPwbmTwGcCB-TJhFwAAeCAKuIAz2f4ZZAA

If you’re going carrion with gs + permeating wrath and supreme justice then it’s imperitive you gain burn duration. Otherwise you’re not getting the most out of your GS and Permeating Wrath, you’ll be losing out on huge damages because condi power + burn duration + stacks of burning means the burn damage will increase exponentially.
Hydromancy isn’t going to do much good with 9% crit. You’re better off with geomancy as two bleed procs will already do more than hydromancy’s noncrit damage.

If you’re looking for a hybrid build I would recomment Celestials w/ fire/air sigils. You can go Rune of fire as fire shield has no might restriction (no icd) and the rune offers burn duration along with power. Your Smite Condition will crit more often which is nice.

With cele, you can most definitely stick with hydromancy if you like. You’ll definitely crit more often oppose to your previous 9% base crit rate on carrion.

I would think Hydromancy is for the Chill more than the damage, since it makes it difficult for opponents who are out of dodges to kite around Whirling Wrath/Binding Blade, and it can also give your allies brief opportunities for burst or recovery in teamfights. If I were going to take Geomancy, it wouldn’t be for the damage, either, since the three bleeds barely give you the same damage per tick as a single burn stack. Geomancy seems much more valuable for the bleed duration (more uptime as a cover condition) and the small burst of hits the activation can trigger for VoJ in a teamfight (which can be combined with Hydromancy for multiple burns on weapon swap).

I do agree about the need for burn duration, and I feel like the Pack Runes are unnecessary here with all the Fury you get from Inner Fire and Meditations. Swiftness and the extra power/precision are nice, but running with GS already gives you some mobility, and Saiyan is right that you’ll get much more mileage out of burn duration runes. Balthazar Runes are the most popular ones for Burn Guardians, but you could also experiment with Fire as suggested above.

I’ve actually run a fairly similar build since the specialization update, which I’ve posted on here a few times before, though it leans more heavily toward Burn than yours does. It also places more emphasis on the Sword/Torch as the main weapon set while using the GS mostly for mobility, CC, and AoE burst/downed cleave in teamfights. Here’s what it looks like:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQNAsfRlsAhqhY3QwcIwPEH+D1NcvgPwGAVQdmjwJMDB-TpBFwACOBAMOCAe2fIaZgEHCAAPAAA

I have Air and Fire sigils on Sword/Torch to maximize Justice procs while increasing physical damage output/consistency. With the extra hits from Air and Fire, you can maintain 4-5 burn stacks on a target just by autoattacking with the Sword. This will pressure an enemy to use their cleanses early on, especially since every cast of Zealot’s Defense or Zealot’s Fire can push this up into the 7-9 stack range. You’ll be able to pull off these mini-bursts multiple times within a 12-second interval (especially since ZD and ZF themselves can hit for 2-3k power damage, not counting sigil procs). By spacing out these burst skills, you can work around your opponents’ cleanses while sustaining continuous pressure. The combination of power and condi damage is tough to deal with even for builds that bring a decent amount of cleansing, especially since the focus is on rapidly reapplying medium-size stacks of burn, rather than blowing everything on one massive burst.

GS uses Hydromancy and Doom, and Hydromancy will proc Doom on its activation, allowing you to instantly Poison your target on weapon swap (great after a Sword/Torch burn burst to block cleanses and disrupt heals). Poison also slows revives on downed targets, which complements the GS’s natural downed cleave with Permeating Wrath. I opted not to run crit sigils on GS because I have less Fury uptime without Inner Fire, but instead I get extra utility and pressure during bursts, and the GS can still maintain respectable pressure (especially when combined with Judge’s Intervention).

Anyways, thought I’d share. Hope some of the ideas are helpful for improving your own build!

I run Hybrid Powe/Burn guard all the time in PvP. I much prefer it over pure burn. The reason i went hybrid is because i also play warrior a lot in pvp and my warrior build has so much condi cleanse its basically condi immune. I have no problems fighting pure burn guards. So by going hybrid if i come across any classes that run good condi cleanse (or actually play as a team with a bunker shout guard/warrior for cleansing) then at least my power damage is still good.

I would recommend against Inner Fire and instead get Right-Handed Strength. If you’re doing a meditation build you’re gonna have virtually perma fury from just those, so you may as well get the added crit and cooldown reduction on sword, ESPECIALLY since you get more blinds out of it.

Westwater.1095:

I would recommend against Inner Fire and instead get Right-Handed Strength. If you’re doing a meditation build you’re gonna have virtually perma fury from just those, so you may as well get the added crit and cooldown reduction on sword, ESPECIALLY since you get more blinds out of it.

I would go that route if you have air/fire sigs on that single 1-handed weapon, if you’re wanting your sigs to proc more often.

Inner Fire is especially needed if you only have 2 medi utilities, using PF instead of Smite Condition. You’re going to need that additional Fury uptime when your medi’s are on CD, both for that GS and 1-handed weapon. It’ll depend on your setup and what you’re looking for.

In WvW I use this build, if you want to try out some day – it is effective even in Zergs:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQRArf8dlsAhuhYzQwcIwPEH+D1NcvgPwGAVQdmTiJMDB-TVCEABJr8zu9HGR/QamgM4JAIj6PHoEEgTAQDHEACBsYOA-w

(the editor is bugged =S)

I know that cannot really compare, but you should consider to change Runes of the Pack for Flame Legion. In PvP the low mobility isn’t a heavy drawback as WvW, so there isn’t a need for travelers.

Also, the Scepter helps (the immobilize is amazing, really helps) and add a lot of burning. And with sword you would have a ranged option as well. From my tries GS really doesn’t add much for hybrid.

Thank you all for the feedback I’m working on a more refined build taking each one of your considerations.

Soryuju, Saiyan and Mikau specially, thanks for all the efford on sharing your own theorycraftings.