Quick ques - order of blinds, aegis, blocks

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

just got me thinking and mainly for the purpose of Shield of Wrath on the focus. and to a certain extent, Protector’s Strike from mace.

let’s just talk about SoW for now though.

so i pop it, it can take 3 attacks for me and will disappear. now many of us actually use SoW for damage. in the heat of a battle, where your enemy is constantly attacking you, the chances for you to have SoW go off can be quite slim depending on who and what you’re up against. so say we have aegis on, we get hit, will SoW lose one charge first, or aegis be taken off first? i’m guessing aegis here.

then say, we add in a blind, from.. focus 4 or sword 2 of VoJ with 5 in Rad. now, your blind enemy attacks while we have aegis AND SoW up. their next attack will “Miss”, but does it still count as a hit and i get a “Block” from aegis or SoW?

just got me thinking. and i’m bored at work, relatively…

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Blind will make them miss you first. Blind before Block.

However, blocks have horrible mechanics in GW2 for Guardians.

They will all fire off together and only stop one attack.

For example ~ You have Aegis up, Shield of Wrath and have activated Protectors Strike. The enemy makes one attack, that one attack will destroy Aegis, activate Protectors Strike and use one of the Shield of Wrath blocks.

The big issue this creates is with the activation on block mechanics like gain Might on block or Burn on block, in the case above you would use 3 blocks and only gain 1 stack of Might or apply just one tick of Burning…

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

so following up with my e.g. if the enemy landed one hit, it would have missed, aegis and the blocks would still be there.

but okay, on to your points about horrible blocking, that’s what i feared then. i would have assumed aegis to be before blocks as well, but i guess since they’re all classified as the same “mechanic”, it works they way it does now.

mace/focus is one of my favorite sets too actually, so i actively pop SoW, and then PS on the outside. usually gets enemies to push off of me, or they’ll be forced to attack and take AoE damage. however, say for e.g. my SoW took 2 hits before i put up PS, then technically the next hit would set off PS, but at the same time, nullify SoW? and on top of that, if i happen to have aegis, then all would be gone.

and definitely points taken on proc on block mechanics. well, i’ve always tried so hard to time my aegis and blocks lol. though never really paid attention.. thanks for the clarification. gonna go field test this more.

i’d like to see it as blind >> aegis (since it’s a boon) >> blocks, and then by time of application / activation.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

Just for completeness:

(Blind/Invulnerability) > (Aegis/Block)

Items in brackets will trigger simultaneously on hit.

You can therefore waste renewed focus to protect your shield, which I guess might be ok if all your virtues are on CD.

Personally, if I’m counting on getting off the shield detonation mid fight, I’ll spam focus #4 and F1 to keep blind up as much as possible, and dodge if I can afford to (F1 is also handy if you want to proc fiery wrath before the burst occurs )

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

ah, good to know. much appreciated!
usuuuually save RF for times to save my behind, but it’s good to know how it all works together.

yea, i was trying to spam blinds and dodging helps too. or interupts, too.

sweet folk, was just curious. ; ))

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

Well funnily enough I had a similar thought last week, so I tested it quite recently ;-)

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lol, I was just thinking about/wanting to test this too!

Great minds, right?

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